Egomaniac Cigar Bloggers?

[gibbleguts]

Now I understand why some people are put off by bloggers but the only ones who really drive me crazy are the ones who invade my home of here. Not going to say there are many but there is at least one who only comes here to promote his blog. If you have a blog but still come here to be a part of the community I don't care I can skip your blog and appreciate what you post here but when your only posts here are to drive traffic to your site it doesn't help the site here at all.

 

[bdc30]

The other part about that which frustrates me Aaron is that of the couple people I can think of as the worst offenders of this, not one of them has a 'BOTL Donor' tag on their profile....

 

[smokemifugotem]

The other part about that which frustrates me Aaron is that of the couple people I can think of as the worst offenders of this, not one of them has a 'BOTL Donor' tag on their profile....

:applause::applause::applause::applause:

 

[Jfire]

The other part about that which frustrates me Aaron is that of the couple people I can think of as the worst offenders of this, not one of them has a 'BOTL Donor' tag on their profile....

Thought that for several years now. It's just plain wrong.

 

[nubchin]

The other part about that which frustrates me Aaron is that of the couple people I can think of as the worst offenders of this, not one of them has a 'BOTL Donor' tag on their profile....

Well , you sometimes need some no-doner pepper spice in life don't you?

:devilhead:closedmou:grinFU:------:banned:

 

[bdc30]

Well , you sometimes need some no-doner pepper spice in life don't you?

not exactly sure what any of that's supposed to mean but :thumbsup: I guess?

 

[nubchin]

A joke .
As a non-doner , if I had to donate just to join the forum , that will change the motive for me , thats just me .

 

[bdc30]

ah, I see what you're saying - and I agree on the basis of someone using the site for the purpose it is intended. I think you're missing the point people are making here. It's not about the random user.

My contention is that if you were using this forum for the sole purpose of driving traffic to your revenue generating cigar blog, one would think the very least you could do is contribute a token amount to the site that's providing you that opportunity.

 

[nubchin]

:thinkidea:thinkidea:thinkidea
my turd head got that.

 

[orangedog]

To proclaim one's self as a reviewer , he or she must forget the money part first, then give a third view alternative for the general consumer, if not he or she is not what they claim to be .

Some type of legitimate training (i.e. perfumery, sommelier training, etc.), also helps... there are guys who got there through extensive experience in wine/beer/etc., but I'm not sure how many 40 yo bloggers with a 20 yo reviewing history there are...

As far as I can tell, having a command of sensory distinction isn't something you just make up... there is a legitimate skill there. Without the development of that skill, a person is simply an enthusiast, not an authority.

 

[orangedog]

and not to beat a dead horse on my own point, but when I see a review that says "there is spice in this cigar", my immediate reaction is "what spice?!?!?!?" Look at this and tell me how the hell I'm supposed to know what this cigar tastes like when I'm given "spice":
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_culinary_herbs_and_spices"]List of culinary herbs and spices - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

I may have a review or two floating around the forum with the word spice, but I make a conscious effort to qualify it with additional color... are the notes reflective of cinnamon, nutmeg, cayenne, lavender, etc. If the best you can put up is "spice", you're an enthusiast, not an authority.

 

[nubchin]

Some type of legitimate training (i.e. perfumery, sommelier training, etc.), also helps... there are guys who got there through extensive experience in wine/beer/etc., but I'm not sure how many 40 yo bloggers with a 20 yo reviewing history there are...

As far as I can tell, having a command of sensory distinction isn't something you just make up... there is a legitimate skill there. Without the development of that skill, a person is simply an enthusiast, not an authority.

+1
Another side effect of internet is converting an enthusiast to an authority.
Trained authorities do follow strict codes to keep neutrality which lacks in the case of cigar reviewers and the last conduct for a reviewer should be chasing the spicy money which ironical seems the first thing they come up with .

I personally would love to see a blog full of reviews about corner shop house blends, chinchales from Florida and Central America or from all over the world ( can you imagen how many sticks are there in this world ? ) who gives a damn about trends but stays true with there sticks and to support them too.
With the amount of bloggers and availabilities to purchase on internet it might be possible but no one has the balls or passion to do that which indicates the usefulness of them, and we see only the repeated advertisements on and on.

As mentioned above I just click the channel.

 

[ChazHollywood]

Blogs are a mixed bag because the barrier to entry is very low. Even still, I feel like the blogging community is keeping me better informed, and writing reviews that I find more useful than say, Cigar Aficionado magazine.

-Charles

 

[amsgpwarrior]

I am a little upset by what Jon posted. He says you can't taste anything in a cigar but the five taste sensations such as sweet, bitterness, sour, salty, and umami. I work in the medical field and know for a fact what you taste on your tOngue is a very very small part of the taste sensation. You only taste because of your smell sensation. The aroma from food or other objects produces most of your "taste" perception. Hate to bust his bubble but I got to call BS on his "taste" post. The best wine makers and spirit blenders are great "smellers" because that is where you can decipher a huge amount of distinct flavors that are far greater than the basic five taste sensations that your tongue can detect. Otherwise, a lot of what he says about blogging is accurate. I would love Jon Huber to tell Pete Johnson that the Bordeaux he is drinking can only be tasted in five ways.

 

[amsgpwarrior]

PS: I am also a blogger and reviewer for one the better known cigar review/blog sites. I do agree with a lot of what Jon said and egis do need to remain in check. I don't own the review site but am just a writer. I do it for fun because I love writing and I enjoy hearing that people found out about a great stick because of me. I have never taken a single dime from any manufacturer nor have I received a single dollar from advertising. I do receive samples for free but that doesn't mean that has any influence on my review. It's no different from when customers go to a B&M and receives a free sample from a rep- I can assure you he won't buy it if he doesn't like it. I think bloggers have their place in the industry but I don't think by any means the industry depends on us. I think we lend a certain entertainment value to the business. Unfortunately, there isn't a single publication that has cigar taste "experts" like the wine industry has sommeliers (but I have heard of them in places like Russia which is interesting). Trust me I would love to study and qualify as a sommeliers of cigars if i could, but how would one do that? I think this would lend a more professional opinion to the cigar blogosphere. I think of myself only as a reference and never as an authority.

 

[JimmyC]

I like looking at the pictures... :smokingco

 

[TreeFrog Frank]

PS: I am also a blogger and reviewer for one the better known cigar review/blog sites. I do agree with a lot of what Jon said and egis do need to remain in check. I don't own the review site but am just a writer. I do it for fun because I love writing and I enjoy hearing that people found out about a great stick because of me. I have never taken a single dime from any manufacturer nor have I received a single dollar from advertising. I do receive samples for free but that doesn't mean that has any influence on my review. It's no different from when customers go to a B&M and receives a free sample from a rep- I can assure you he won't buy it if he doesn't like it. I think bloggers have their place in the industry but I don't think by any means the industry depends on us. I think we lend a certain entertainment value to the business. Unfortunately, there isn't a single publication that has cigar taste "experts" like the wine industry has sommeliers (but I have heard of them in places like Russia which is interesting). Trust me I would love to study and qualify as a sommeliers of cigars if i could, but how would one do that? I think this would lend a more professional opinion to the cigar blogosphere. I think of myself only as a reference and never as an authority.

You are a blogger/reviewer? Aren't you a rep for some cigar company(ies)?

 

[gibbleguts]

Cigar sommeliers exist in europe as every year at the Habanos festival there is a  Sommelier competition. I guess biggest problem with it is that I believe the program is only for Habanos. No support for NC's at all.

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[amsgpwarrior]

You are a blogger/reviewer? Aren't you a rep for some cigar company(ies)?

Reviewing and blogging led me to repping these brands. They were cigars that I liked after reviewing them and contacted them because I knew they had no representation out here in Texas. I haven't reviewed a single cigar of theirs after I have started repping for them for integrity sakes. They are just brands that I believed in and thought that they need to be shared with the state of Texas. It was more coincidence than anything that I started repping for them.

 

[amsgpwarrior]

Cigar sommeliers exist in europe as every year at the Habanos festival there is a  Sommelier competition. I guess biggest problem with it is that I believe the program is only for Habanos. No support for NC's at all.

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Yeah, I agree. I saw a cigar sommeliers on a show about cigars in Russia- pure habanos though. I think it would make the sommeliers certification much more difficult throwing in NC's.