...has anyone else noticed on the 'for sale' sites that Viajes are being dumped? I never really fell into the Viajes trap (where every cigar is a 'limited edition') and I am happy about that. Funny that they seem to be on fire sale now. Though not surprising,,IMO.
Is it just me or...
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Not only are they being dumped, people are having trouble moving them too.
Jfire
BoM 9/9' 9/11' 8/12'
You sir may be the ULTIMATE Tat hater.... Just saying. And this is from a few years of observation here. If you don't like them (which is obvious) just move on brother.
You are all trailing on Viaje and you aster mad cause he mentions Tat. Both are the same to me.
Some Viaje's are good to great smokes. The problem is that you never know if you are buying a rocket or a good to great cigar. It's a coin toss, and at the prices Andre asks...I'll roll the dice occasionally, but...ya know....
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Red Raider
Wreck 'em Tech
This is coming from a guy who loves many of the Viaje's and owns quite a few
The problem (for me) is the price being paid for a marketing campaign. Some of the smokes are great (Daisy Cutter, Super Shot one of my favorites, "?" from 2010 and others) but with his scheme of only producing limitied releases, one must make the choice..... roll the dice and pay a very high price for a mediocre to good smoke or get lucky and get one of the gems... wait too long and they are gone
Possible Solutions:
1.Produce some regular production cigars that consumers can consistently find and enjoy at a reasonable price - this will help to grow a long term fan base
2.Produce cigars that are fairly consistent across lines from release to release - that will allow people who enjoy a particular cigar one year have a little more faith in the following release (This woule help the SnB line IMHO)
I still pick up the Viaje's and have/still chase a few - but nothing like years past. They have become too much of a marketing experinment IMVHO.
That being said - I may light one up this evening...
*edit* took me so blasted long to type this up - several others have said the same thing in much fewer words...
The problem (for me) is the price being paid for a marketing campaign. Some of the smokes are great (Daisy Cutter, Super Shot one of my favorites, "?" from 2010 and others) but with his scheme of only producing limitied releases, one must make the choice..... roll the dice and pay a very high price for a mediocre to good smoke or get lucky and get one of the gems... wait too long and they are gone
Possible Solutions:
1.Produce some regular production cigars that consumers can consistently find and enjoy at a reasonable price - this will help to grow a long term fan base
2.Produce cigars that are fairly consistent across lines from release to release - that will allow people who enjoy a particular cigar one year have a little more faith in the following release (This woule help the SnB line IMHO)
I still pick up the Viaje's and have/still chase a few - but nothing like years past. They have become too much of a marketing experinment IMVHO.
That being said - I may light one up this evening...
*edit* took me so blasted long to type this up - several others have said the same thing in much fewer words...
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smokemifugotem
BoM July '10
Where is this tat fire sale and why was I not made aware of it!?! Honestly still see iso's everyday and various forums for tats and ligas...not so much. Viaje
Not a hater at all.. Just trying to keep everyone honest in their praise and criticism of brands.
javajunkie
BoM July '12
i think the difference is the foundation. tat still does stupid limited stuff (which i love), but has the reds and cabi's, and even the P series to fall back on. viaje has a string of not entirely related seasonals and limiteds (which i have enjoyed, some immensely), but nothing on the regular.
as a corollary, I sell booze. i love when i get to talk bourbon and beer, but it is well crap like kentucky tavern and clear domestic crap like bud miller keystone whatever that keeps the light on and the neighborhood coming back.
why do you think fuente is still rolling, or padron. it ain't the opi and anny's, it's the curly heads and 8-5-8's and the thousands.
if it isn't paying the bills, you don't keep it. business.
as a corollary, I sell booze. i love when i get to talk bourbon and beer, but it is well crap like kentucky tavern and clear domestic crap like bud miller keystone whatever that keeps the light on and the neighborhood coming back.
why do you think fuente is still rolling, or padron. it ain't the opi and anny's, it's the curly heads and 8-5-8's and the thousands.
if it isn't paying the bills, you don't keep it. business.
