I actually prefer the HE Lonsdale to the to the Piramide. To each his own I suppose.Thanks-- you know I've always thought it strange that the rankings seem to depend upon the vitola as well as the make and model. I've had several HE cigars, but all in robusto (and, yes, they were great). But I'm not sure I've ever seen the Piramide Fino. I can't imagine that these CA ratings guys would decide, "Hey, this HE Robusto doesn't quite make it, but this Piramide is definitely top 25 material!"