Atlantic clearence on CAO now?
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Must have something to do with Tim O leaving. New move in packaging I would guess.
thegoldenmackid
Why Can't I be a Lancero?
It's because CI marketed a "blowout", which lowered prices a bit, but nothing groundbreaking. Famous, Atlantic and a few others responded by advertising sales of their own, even though prices weren't the lowest of all time.
CAO never made their own cigars, General Cigar Co. assumed all of those contracts. While there is a new cigar on the way, NONE OF THE CURRENT CAO BLENDS WILL CHANGE IN 2011. Come January of 2012, blends will change presumably, but blends change every year, that would mean late Jan/early Feb would likely be the earlier for any of these "new" cigars to hit the market.
This has zero to do with Tim Ozgener's planned departure, Gary Hyams' planned departure, Jon Huber's obvious departure, a move of headquarters. This was just CI being CI.
Other random points to consider:
-CAO is owned by the same company that owns CI
-"CAO made, at best, mediocre cigars, we just branded them better these mediocre cigars better than anyone..."
-According to another former CAO rep: CAO died as a brand in late 2006, when Cano, after defeating lymphoma for the second time, announced the brand was being sold to Henri Wintermans. Under HW they had complete control, STG purchasing HG took away a bit of freedom, but it wasn't until the merger last year that things were clear that CAO was ending.
CAO never made their own cigars, General Cigar Co. assumed all of those contracts. While there is a new cigar on the way, NONE OF THE CURRENT CAO BLENDS WILL CHANGE IN 2011. Come January of 2012, blends will change presumably, but blends change every year, that would mean late Jan/early Feb would likely be the earlier for any of these "new" cigars to hit the market.
This has zero to do with Tim Ozgener's planned departure, Gary Hyams' planned departure, Jon Huber's obvious departure, a move of headquarters. This was just CI being CI.
Other random points to consider:
-CAO is owned by the same company that owns CI
-"CAO made, at best, mediocre cigars, we just branded them better these mediocre cigars better than anyone..."
-According to another former CAO rep: CAO died as a brand in late 2006, when Cano, after defeating lymphoma for the second time, announced the brand was being sold to Henri Wintermans. Under HW they had complete control, STG purchasing HG took away a bit of freedom, but it wasn't until the merger last year that things were clear that CAO was ending.
I know CAO isn't a Tatuaje or Viaje or any high end stick, but they were damn good and affordable which is why they were one of my favorite top brands. I defintely wouldn't call them mediocre. If your a Maduro fan they make some of the best Maduro's on the market.It's because CI marketed a "blowout", which lowered prices a bit, but nothing groundbreaking. Famous, Atlantic and a few others responded by advertising sales of their own, even though prices weren't the lowest of all time.
CAO never made their own cigars, General Cigar Co. assumed all of those contracts. While there is a new cigar on the way, NONE OF THE CURRENT CAO BLENDS WILL CHANGE IN 2011. Come January of 2012, blends will change presumably, but blends change every year, that would mean late Jan/early Feb would likely be the earlier for any of these "new" cigars to hit the market.
This has zero to do with Tim Ozgener's planned departure, Gary Hyams' planned departure, Jon Huber's obvious departure, a move of headquarters. This was just CI being CI.
Other random points to consider:
-CAO is owned by the same company that owns CI
-"CAO made, at best, mediocre cigars, we just branded them better these mediocre cigars better than anyone..."
-According to another former CAO rep: CAO died as a brand in late 2006, when Cano, after defeating lymphoma for the second time, announced the brand was being sold to Henri Wintermans. Under HW they had complete control, STG purchasing HG took away a bit of freedom, but it wasn't until the merger last year that things were clear that CAO was ending.
Also, I had never seen CAO cigars this cheap. I was paying $2.00 to $3.00 for cigars that normally sell for $8.00 to $10.00 at my local B&M. Also Holts was the first to market a clearance on the CAO cigars, CI was short to follow though, then famous.
Hopefully everything works out for the better though.
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Opinions are just that. But I would say I would have to agree with the GMK. CAO has always been about packaging and marketing. Their best cigar was one that they didn't over market or package - the La Traviata.