Booked cigars
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Craig Mac
BoM 4/10 7/11 12/14
Book bunching is when the leaves are laid on top of each other. It's the easiest method to bunch cigars but it also can have draw issues over the accordion and entubado methods of bunching.
Rupe
Suburban robot that monitors reality -BOM Feb.'13
Book bunching is one of the most popular (and common) styles of rolling a cigar. Basically the leaves are placed in the cigar like the pages of a book and it is used by many factories. As Craig indicated the potential for draw issues is higher with this method. The video at this link is a demonstration.
http://on.aol.com/video/how-to-roll-a-cigar-in-the-book-bunching-technique-59578896
The other major styles are called entubado and accordian
In the entubado style the filler leaves are placed in individual "tubes" inside the binder leaf. Entubado rolling gives a better air flow but it is much harder to do so not nearly as many cigars are rolled this way.
The accordion style is pretty much what it sounds like.
http://on.aol.com/video/how-to-roll-a-cigar-in-the-book-bunching-technique-59578896
The other major styles are called entubado and accordian
In the entubado style the filler leaves are placed in individual "tubes" inside the binder leaf. Entubado rolling gives a better air flow but it is much harder to do so not nearly as many cigars are rolled this way.
The accordion style is pretty much what it sounds like.
I have wanted to try a entubado style, does anyone know a good one to try?
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javajunkie
BoM July '12
didn't i read that DE uses a hybrid of entubado and accordion on their sticks? lie a "lazy entubado" that is their own style, and brings a little to the table from each method? i think i remember SS or JD posting something like that here, but first cup of coffee means finding it right now is more than my brain can do. or if any of y'all who have been on the safari can verify... ?
to point, not sure which sticks are "booked". i can guarantee i have burned some, where that has affected their burn, and have probably smoked many more where it did not.
to point, not sure which sticks are "booked". i can guarantee i have burned some, where that has affected their burn, and have probably smoked many more where it did not.
Huh I didnt know liga was. Thanks for the info guys.
Fwiw, here is slightly edited repost of something I wrote long ago:
There are 2 primary methods of hand bunching: Entubado and Estrujado
Entubado - aka Entubar, is a method where the filler tobacco is rolled into relatively tight tubes of tobacco and then laid into the bunch. This is the often called the "Cuban" method.
Estrujado - is a method where the leaves are folded over onto themselves and laid into the bunch. This method is utilized in the DR and Central America.
FYI - there are Nicaraguan factories that roll entubado and Cuban factories that roll estrujado - so you really can't generalized as a country of origin thing.
Now from here on DOWN is ENTIRELY MY OWN OPINION ONLY and every cigar maker will have their own opinion about the below.
There are benefits and downsides to each of the two primary methodology of hand bunching techniques.
Entubado - tubing the filler allows for great air channels and draw (when done right - regretfully many Cuban factories suck at their own technique) but can result in funny burn patterns if the fillers do not burn at near identical rates... for example every see a cigar with like a nail spike of tobacco sticking out that is burning slower than the rest of the cigar? This is a perfect example of a entubado rolled cigar with slow burning ligero... And once the tobaccos are not burning together relatively evenly, the blend no longer tastes right.
Estrujado - the folding of the leaf allows typically for a better burn because unlike the entubado method, the end result is each of the filler leaves have more surface area contact with their neighboring leaves in the bunch which allows for the quicker burning ones to help along the slower burning ones which ultimately creates a better burn and a more consistent tasting blend. The downside to estrujado is it a method that can be rush through and result in a uneven burning cigars because the bunchero got too many of the folds to one side, aka booking, plus just a little bit too much leaf and the draw deteriorates quickly.
Now when both methods are implemented properly both are capable of producing an exceptional handmade cigar, but in my opinion both methods have inherent strengths and weaknesses. So when we were developing the first Liga Privada cigars we began working on a new methodology of hand bunching cigars to take the best properties of both methods while minimizing the negatives.
Essentially it is style where we roll the fillers in entubado-style, but in very loose, wide tubes of leaf then fold those in estrujado style into the hand which contains a "base" leaf that acts almost like a second binder leaf, but is actually part of the filler blend. We then break off the tips of the long leaf bunch and backfill the body of the bunch to get even compression throughout its length.
I often refer to this as "lazy entubado", JD typically refers to it as "Escuado".
This hybrid method of hand bunching cigars is extremely time consuming and requires the very best buncheros an additional six months to learn. Plus they must have a great sense of feel because by utilizing the the backfill we are essentially giving them the ability to micro-adjust each and every bunch by touch.
The resulting cigars end up being densely packed yet exhibit an amazingly effortless draw while burning and will burn not only more evenly, but longer left resting than others.
This unique Escudao method produces, in my opinion, the very best burning, drawing and consistent tasting cigars possible.
Hope this adds to the convo,
STS
There are 2 primary methods of hand bunching: Entubado and Estrujado
Entubado - aka Entubar, is a method where the filler tobacco is rolled into relatively tight tubes of tobacco and then laid into the bunch. This is the often called the "Cuban" method.
Estrujado - is a method where the leaves are folded over onto themselves and laid into the bunch. This method is utilized in the DR and Central America.
FYI - there are Nicaraguan factories that roll entubado and Cuban factories that roll estrujado - so you really can't generalized as a country of origin thing.
Now from here on DOWN is ENTIRELY MY OWN OPINION ONLY and every cigar maker will have their own opinion about the below.
There are benefits and downsides to each of the two primary methodology of hand bunching techniques.
Entubado - tubing the filler allows for great air channels and draw (when done right - regretfully many Cuban factories suck at their own technique) but can result in funny burn patterns if the fillers do not burn at near identical rates... for example every see a cigar with like a nail spike of tobacco sticking out that is burning slower than the rest of the cigar? This is a perfect example of a entubado rolled cigar with slow burning ligero... And once the tobaccos are not burning together relatively evenly, the blend no longer tastes right.
Estrujado - the folding of the leaf allows typically for a better burn because unlike the entubado method, the end result is each of the filler leaves have more surface area contact with their neighboring leaves in the bunch which allows for the quicker burning ones to help along the slower burning ones which ultimately creates a better burn and a more consistent tasting blend. The downside to estrujado is it a method that can be rush through and result in a uneven burning cigars because the bunchero got too many of the folds to one side, aka booking, plus just a little bit too much leaf and the draw deteriorates quickly.
Now when both methods are implemented properly both are capable of producing an exceptional handmade cigar, but in my opinion both methods have inherent strengths and weaknesses. So when we were developing the first Liga Privada cigars we began working on a new methodology of hand bunching cigars to take the best properties of both methods while minimizing the negatives.
Essentially it is style where we roll the fillers in entubado-style, but in very loose, wide tubes of leaf then fold those in estrujado style into the hand which contains a "base" leaf that acts almost like a second binder leaf, but is actually part of the filler blend. We then break off the tips of the long leaf bunch and backfill the body of the bunch to get even compression throughout its length.
I often refer to this as "lazy entubado", JD typically refers to it as "Escuado".
This hybrid method of hand bunching cigars is extremely time consuming and requires the very best buncheros an additional six months to learn. Plus they must have a great sense of feel because by utilizing the the backfill we are essentially giving them the ability to micro-adjust each and every bunch by touch.
The resulting cigars end up being densely packed yet exhibit an amazingly effortless draw while burning and will burn not only more evenly, but longer left resting than others.
This unique Escudao method produces, in my opinion, the very best burning, drawing and consistent tasting cigars possible.
Hope this adds to the convo,
STS
Wow, that was a awesome read and now I want to go smoke a dirty rat. Thanks for the info even if it had subliminal messages in it.