i think this may be their entry into the "rothschild/gigante from illusione"/ "tatoo" from tatuaje/ "big payback" from room101/ padilla cava trend: give a lot in standard sizing for a decent price. this trend comes up every couple few years, and there are some decent offerings this time around IMO. i have had one of these moose (meese?), and it had some spice and body over a creamy base. it would be a great add to a budget rotation, especially if you have a B&M with an impoverished set as (like NO small companies) your main. i am not going to go out of my way for more for myself, but they don't suck, and might not be bad for a "buddy" cigar...