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Other owners are just scared of what good teams do. I suppose they prefer the Hornets get nothing for Chris Paul? Did they really think the Hornets were getting the worst part of the deal? I can't see how.
 
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the nba needs to get their act together. the commissioner, owners, players ... everyone is a fucking cry baby.
 
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As a small market team fan (Sacramento Kings) I think this was the right thing to do. I'm tired of all these "Dream Teams" being put together. These players are getting to go where ever the hell they want. The new CBA was supposed to do something about this, but I heard it didn't happen. Big name players don't want to come to Sacramento, tough shit! I didn't want 10 furlough days this year! It's becoming harder and harder to remain a fan of NBA basketball. My rant for the day:stickbeat
 
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As a small market team fan (Sacramento Kings) I think this was the right thing to do. I'm tired of all these "Dream Teams" being put together. These players are getting to go where ever the hell they want. The new CBA was supposed to do something about this, but I heard it didn't happen. Big name players don't want to come to Sacramento, tough shit! I didn't want 10 furlough days this year! It's becoming harder and harder to remain a fan of NBA basketball. My rant for the day:stickbeat
So let's say I'm a good employee I work for a small company and want to quit because I find a place that can pay me more and I can have better opportunities should there be some governing body that tells me I can't because I'm too valuable to the place I currently work for?

I think the nba just opened a can of worms imo. If there were cap issues or something of that nature id understand, but to nix it because the lakers will be too good? What a load of horse ****. And for the record I dispise the lakers but don't see the issue w/the trade.
 
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So let's say I'm a good employee I work for a small company and want to quit because I find a place that can pay me more and I can have better opportunities should there be some governing body that tells me I can't because I'm too valuable to the place I currently work for?
I used to share this opinion on the similarity, but I've eased off in recent years. Because while major league sports is big business, it is more than that. Completely free, unfettered monetary competition for totally unrestricted free agents may sound good from a capitalistic, free market perspective, it isn't good for sports as entertainment, passion and part of the fabric of our lives. I don't want to force absolute parity on any league, however, a little (manipulative?) parity inflicted on major league sports is OK with me.
 

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As a small market team fan (Sacramento Kings) I think this was the right thing to do. I'm tired of all these "Dream Teams" being put together. These players are getting to go where ever the hell they want. The new CBA was supposed to do something about this, but I heard it didn't happen. Big name players don't want to come to Sacramento, tough shit! I didn't want 10 furlough days this year! It's becoming harder and harder to remain a fan of NBA basketball. My rant for the day:stickbeat
So let's say I'm a good employee I work for a small company and want to quit because I find a place that can pay me more and I can have better opportunities should there be some governing body that tells me I can't because I'm too valuable to the place I currently work for?

I think the nba just opened a can of worms imo. If there were cap issues or something of that nature id understand, but to nix it because the lakers will be too good? What a load of horse ****. And for the record I dispise the lakers but don't see the issue w/the trade.


I see what both of you are saying. To me, the free-market analogy doesn't work here, though. Sure, from that point of view all the caps and trade rules, etc., are bogus. But sports are NOT a free market economy.

In order for sports to be ... sporting ... there needs to be ways to level the playing field and keep things competitive. Otherwise, teams in high-dollar venues just get uber-amazing, and all the small-market teams have to go bankrupt. You'll end up with 6 teams in each of the major sports ... then no one will watch, no one will make money, and there won't be any sports at all.

"Fair" is largely in the eye of the beholder, and honestly "fairness" as a concept is an illusion anyway (it's just a child's view of justice, flawed by lack of perspective). The issue here isn't fairness, it's what is best for the sport as a whole, long term.

In the case of this particular issue, I really don't know. I think I understand why the trade might have smelled funny to certain people given the league-owned team issue ... but that could just as easily be an excuse to keep a good team from getting another great player.
 
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This is bullshit! I've never seen anything like this in any sport. Chris Paul to the Lakers was actually making the Lakers poorer and not turning them into a "Dream Team" as some people seem to be thinking. Think about it they were giving up two premier players and losing the biggest front court in all of basketball for one PG. Hornets got LO and a bunch of good players in return whereas Houston got Pau. Personally I think this was as fair a trade or as great a deal as New Orleans could get in return for Paul (unless of course you want to argue that they should get Pau).

Not only that but this sets a poor precedent for the future any team owner can bitch and moan about a trade to the commissioner and have it nixed for some mysterious basketball reasons. If the owners wanted to protect the small market teams in the new CBA they shouldn't have focused on the 50-50 BR split and focused more on how to ensure a level playing field.
 

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All of you guys make interesting, logical, educated comments & it's hard for me to decide which side of the argument I'm on in this one. I personally think it was a fair trade for all parties involved, but I also see the need for parity and the reasoning behind the rejection.


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You have got to think the Lakers are fuming over Chris Paul going to the Clippers! Especially when they let Lamar Odom go for practically nothing. That Paul to Griffin combo could be deadly...


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CP3 just became irrelevent. Everything the Clippers do ends up mediocre (I hope). OK, maybe I'm a little scared now. Is it really possible the Clips become competitive?
 

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If Donald Sterling doesn't F it up first, I think they have a real chance to be pretty darn good


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