Guilty… sorry!

[ssaka]

Fellow Herfers,

I will admit I was part of the movement towards giving traditional cigars uncommon frontmarks.

The intent was to have a little fun and make the product standout a bit and it worked… Worked too well because now almost every damn brand launched has wacky names even in it's core vitola set, so many that I can't tell what anything is anymore. Plus some of the names have just gotten beyond obscure if not offensive.

Enough already, I wish people spent more time thinking about the tobacco, blends, and construction than they do about their next catchy name…

BR,

STS

 

[THEMISCHMAN]

This sounds interesting. As someone who is relatively new to cigar culture; can you give some examples of what you mean.

 

[joe45]

The wacky names don't bother me all that much, but I do get upset when the size of a cigar doesn't match the name of the vitola. Like a 56 ring gage that is called a robusto or when CA would review corona gordas and include 6x60s. (I think they may have stopped doing that. Haven't read ca in a while)

 

[Clint]

This sounds interesting. As someone who is relatively new to cigar culture; can you give some examples of what you mean.

I am relatively old to the cigar culture, and I am also not understanding...

 

[StogieNinja]

An example would be Drew Estate's MUWAT lines:

Regular MUWAT line:
+11 (Robusto) (5.5"x52)
Bait Fish (Corona) (4.0"x44)
Nightcrawler (Robusto)

KFC line:
Chunky (Corona) (4.0"x46)
Delfinas (Lancero/Panatela) (6.5"x26)
Fat Molly (Robusto) (5.0"x56)
Flying Pig (Gordo) (4.1"x60)
Hamhock (Gordo) (3.7"x56)
Just a Friend (Toro) (6.0"x52)
Kyotos (Cigarillos) (5.5"x34)

The wacky names don't bother me all that much, but I do get upset when the size of a cigar doesn't match the name of the vitola.

Ditto.

Another pet peeve is when the cigar retailer doesn't list the size measurements. One thing I like about CI is their online store lists the name of the vitola, the traditional name for the size, and the actual measurements (like I posted above).

 

[D Quintero]

love the rata sucia moniker Bro - best one in the industry .. pussy juice being a close 2nd fwiw

 

[THEMISCHMAN]

@StogieNinja. Ok, that makes sense. I don't particularly mind when people give their vitolas a name because I think some of them are clever and some even elegant. I do, however, wish there would be a bigger trend towards smaller ring gauge cigars.

 

[Mossome]

New guy here too. I've been categorizing all of my inventory as I get them to better acquaint myself to all the vitolas, and sometimes it's a real pain in the ass because retailers and bloggers will disagree on what it actually falls into.

 

[Theon]

Opus X P.J. Never gets hot/has two open ends.Starts salty and ends sweet.Can be strong when young.
That's the HALFWHEEL review.

 

[AlohaStyle]

Look at anything from Viaje... wtf is that?? Smoked turkey hambone, etc etc.

 

[Cigarth Vader]

Fellow Herfers,

I will admit I was part of the movement towards giving traditional cigars uncommon frontmarks.

The intent was to have a little fun and make the product standout a bit and it worked… Worked too well because now almost every damn brand launched has wacky names even in it's core vitola set, so many that I can't tell what anything is anymore. Plus some of the names have just gotten beyond obscure if not offensive.

Enough already, I wish people spent more time thinking about the tobacco, blends, and construction than they do about their next catchy name…

BR,

STS

Is this you alluding to things to come? ...perhaps a new project in the works a guy can hope, right?

 

[ENV]

Yea, Dogma and Slim Shady were completely awful names to give special versions/sizes of cigars. At least you are man enough to admit the guilt. It does make $$$ though so it isnt completely ridiculous lol.

 

[StogieNinja]

Well, to be fair, the Shady XV was a tie-in to the release of Shady XV... so that one kinda made sense...

 

[Smoqman]

I read you LOUD and clear, Steve.

 

[ssaka]

For the record, I had nothing to do with Dogma or Shady XV. They are both post-Saka era products.

STS

 

[3/5King]

I personally don't mind all of the creativity when it comes to band design and promotion with two excptions (ok maybe three)

1) that's all the cigar is, a turd wrapped in diamonds and gold.

2) all the marketing and advertising add significant cost to the retail tag price.

3) when the bands are obtus and troublesome to deal with when going to actually smoke the cigar. For instance if it is going to be a pain in the ass and damage the cigar before I even can put a torch to it, that is a problem. Too much glue on the simplest bands are a huge faux pas aswell.

In the end, I'm on the same page as you Steve. Concentrate on blend and a quality consistant roll. Although the market has changed and you've got to sell cigars to stay in business and get your cigars on the shelves. Thanks for the input brother.

 

[Hoshneer]

I was gonna chime in but then @3/5King posted. My thoughts exactly.