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TN Waltz and Tat Broadleaf the same?

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i was just wondering if the TN Waltz has a different blend from the Tatuaje Broadleaf sticks. i love the regio reservas ive had and there's a lot of praise for the TN Waltz. those thats had both the waltz and the broadleaf stuff from tat, are you experiencing the same flavors from both? what stands out about both, whats your preference? Same factory using the same tobaccos? somebody take me to school...
 
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They both have a Connecticut broadleaf wrapper and nica binder and filler (the TN Waltz and Reserva Regios) and are both made by Pepin, but they taste different to me. The Tatuaje TAA 2014 also uses Connecticut broadleaf for wrapper and nica binder &filler, but again, I think are all different.
 

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Comparing sticks by their wrapper, country of origin of binder and filler, and manufacturer/farm may be misleading. While both of the sticks you mentioned were produced by My Father, and have selected fillers and binder leaf from the Pepin farm, and use the connecticut broadleaf for wrapper, they are still completely different sticks. Tobacco blending is a fickle beast, and although most reviews refuse to delve in too deep, you have to keep a few things in mind when directly comparing two blends.

1.) Seed - There are plenty of different kinds of tobacco, and although most farms (Pepin included) tend to grow the same types of tobacco, the seed could be original Cuban seed or a newer generation of harvested seed from Nica, maybe even from a recent crop. So when blending, one must decide what kind of tobacco they are using as well as what generation the seed is. But, if it's grown in Nicaragua you can be damned sure that's all they will say about it in most reviews.

2.) Filler cut - There are a few different ways to fill a cigar. You could have long filler and short filler. This will affect how tightly the cigar is packed in some cases and will definitely influence smoke production and draw.

3.) Leaf selection - Although two leaves may be from same plant, where they are harvested from the plant is important to the blender. The leaves toward the bottom of a tobacco plant have lived their lives in the shade. Because of that fact, they are usually milder in taste. The stronger ligero leaves have spent more time in the sun and are harvested from the tops of the plant. This selection process is going to drastically change the taste of a cigar.

4.) Aging - Obviously, we know how aging affects tobacco taste. Well, one must consider how long the individual leaves in a blend were aged before being used to make the cigar you are holding.

After all of these different decisions are made, and all the different variations settled to make one final blend that a company will stock the shelves with from all the possibilties it could have been... All it will say on the specs will be:

Wrapper: Connecticut Broadleaf
Binder: Nicaragua
Filler: Nicaragua

Like I said.... Pretty misleading. Hope this helps.

Disclaimer: This is just shit I think I know. I could be totally wrong. Haha
 
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Going with that wonderful explanation: are there "single plant" cigars? In other words, a cigar made entirely of leaves from a single plant?
 
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Comparing sticks by their wrapper, country of origin of binder and filler, and manufacturer/farm may be misleading. While both of the sticks you mentioned were produced by My Father, and have selected fillers and binder leaf from the Pepin farm, and use the connecticut broadleaf for wrapper, they are still completely different sticks. Tobacco blending is a fickle beast, and although most reviews refuse to delve in too deep, you have to keep a few things in mind when directly comparing two blends.

1.) Seed - There are plenty of different kinds of tobacco, and although most farms (Pepin included) tend to grow the same types of tobacco, the seed could be original Cuban seed or a newer generation of harvested seed from Nica, maybe even from a recent crop. So when blending, one must decide what kind of tobacco they are using as well as what generation the seed is. But, if it's grown in Nicaragua you can be damned sure that's all they will say about it in most reviews.

2.) Filler cut - There are a few different ways to fill a cigar. You could have long filler and short filler. This will affect how tightly the cigar is packed in some cases and will definitely influence smoke production and draw.

3.) Leaf selection - Although two leaves may be from same plant, where they are harvested from the plant is important to the blender. The leaves toward the bottom of a tobacco plant have lived their lives in the shade. Because of that fact, they are usually milder in taste. The stronger ligero leaves have spent more time in the sun and are harvested from the tops of the plant. This selection process is going to drastically change the taste of a cigar.

4.) Aging - Obviously, we know how aging affects tobacco taste. Well, one must consider how long the individual leaves in a blend were aged before being used to make the cigar you are holding.

After all of these different decisions are made, and all the different variations settled to make one final blend that a company will stock the shelves with from all the possibilties it could have been... All it will say on the specs will be:

Wrapper: Connecticut Broadleaf
Binder: Nicaragua
Filler: Nicaragua

Like I said.... Pretty misleading. Hope this helps.

Disclaimer: This is just shit I think I know. I could be totally wrong. Haha
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