Satori?Ninja?Samurai?Namakubi?Shuriken?

[Docbp87]

I ,,, don't get your point by bunching Japanese and Asian culture, Indonesian Indian Filipino tobacco are fully or subsidiary in cigars you smoke daily, and Indonesian cigars are rock hard popular in Europe and Asia. Still just a few known in the US or has faded out but they have a very long tradition with cigars almost equal to the length of Cuban history as a whole country .

Japan has the Kizami (thin sliced natural tobacco as if in Latakia tobacco from Syria)tobacco manufacturers for pipes still manufacturing and a single cigar brand manufactured in the whole history , but nothing else .

You don’t get my bunching Japan with other Asian countries or you don’t get me saying they have little to do with cigars?

Even with what you have typed, I still feel (I’m my mind) that the Japanese culture has little to do with cigars.

While I agree that feudal Japan has nothing to do with cigars, and that Miyamoto Musashi and Tokugawa Ieyasu probably weren't big collectors of fine Havanas, there are tons of images and concepts being used in cigar marketing today that have nothing to do with cigars or cigar culture/history (which basically means Cuban, and then later, other Central and South American culture), aside from Japanese stuff. Frankly, I think that if any of them are justified in their use of these things, it is Room 101, given that Mr. Booth has been doing the Japanese thing since day one with his successful jewelery business that was booming long before he got into the premium cigar market. It was an established thing with his brand before it had anything to do with cigars.

Now, the day that I look down and my cigar band has a Native American Indian on it that looks like THIS on it, I quit.

 

[CWS]

Yap , the question was why the Japanese words on cigars and accessories lately if they have little to do with cigars (cutlery maybe).
Asian tobacco culture is kinda of topic I guess since W.Churchill JFK and etc loved smoking Filipino and Indonesian cigars (correct me if I'm wrong )and since some how faded away in the US market today.

Cromagnon
The Wolfman
Holy Lancero
Baccarat
Brickhouse
Cain
Diamond Crown

To name a few. Cigar makers put a name on their cigars that they think will catch your eye. Why not japanses?

 

[indyrob]

I don't know...Padron seems to do pretty well without any gimmicks or crazy marketing.

Anniversary series was a pretty good marketing gimmick. I know it's not what you're talking about, but still...

Maybe it wasn't super crazy marketing like what the thread implies but it's been done. H.Uppman Office Jars go WAAAAAAAY back. Litho tins from the teen's through the 60's were pretty funky too.I've seen a Ramon Allones tin that was packaged like a russian missile for cryin' out loud!

If you look on ebay at all the older cigar boxes I'm sure you're going to come across a lot of different crazy marketing gimmicks that make todays attempts pretty mild.

 

[nubchin]

Anniversary series was a pretty good marketing gimmick. I know it's not what you're talking about, but still...

Maybe it wasn't super crazy marketing like what the thread implies but it's been done. H.Uppman Office Jars go WAAAAAAAY back. Litho tins from the teen's through the 60's were pretty funky too.I've seen a Ramon Allones tin that was packaged like a russian missile for cryin' out loud!

If you look on ebay at all the older cigar boxes I'm sure you're going to come across a lot of different crazy marketing gimmicks that make todays attempts pretty mild.

That's true looking at old days Cuban gimmicks , could've been crazy at that time since they are refreshing images still now .

Didn't know about Booth's approach to Japan from his initial carrier , seems natural for him I suppose , and that Farkas picking up from everything made it a stream on the whole industry I guess .

 

[Angry_Dragon]

I was kinda wondering the same thing about the Asian names. It seems like the Limited Editions are growing out of control. It seems like Viaje and Tat have a name game going with Pete's Monster series and Viajes Zombies. Then you have the M80 vs. TNT C4 and now the Nuclear by 601. At least some great smokes are coming out of it! :grin:

 

[loki993]

Matt Booth and Andre Farkas are both from or live in LA don't they? They're is a large Asian influence in LA and a lot of California I believe. That could be why.


How are Indonesian cigars? Any decent brands to look for?

 

[Primetime76]

Sultan cigars...the cream of the crop from Indonesia!