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I just had an epicure especial which was advertised to me as, although the strongest from the HdM line, a mild-ish cigar.

What I got was two thirds of increasing harshness and bitterness. The cigar was dated jul 10. I'm guessing it should have been aged for a longer time. Now here's my question: for how long?
 

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^I was wondering this too

How long has this cigar been in your humidor?
 

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Sounds wrong. Either you got a bad stick (happens, especially with CCs) or storage was off or you smoked it too fast.

These have become a favorite of mine, never had one that was harsh.
 

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You're not alone. Only HdM EE I've ever had was the same. Not harsh so much as void of flavor...which I suppose couldve contributed to the harshness factor, as it pretty much just tasted like burnt tobacco. And it was an 08 IIRC, and over humidified wasn't the issue. Just a dud I guess. Happens.

Been considering giving the HdM Epi 1s a try though...amongst other CGs (SLR Serie A etc).
 

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BTW Kyle Epi 1 05-current are fantastic and I can say the same about SLR A. Current SLR A is fantastic and have had some 03's that are one of my favorites.
Good info Mike..thanks! A certain 05 cab of Epi 1s has been taunting me lately...lol.
 
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Heh

No, I now keep my cigars (the good ones, at least) in a glass jar with humidification packs. The last couple of days it's been sitting in a cigar caddy travel humidor. While the travel humidor could have been a bit overhumidified, the cigar burnt perfectly. No tunelling, no canoeing, no touch-ups needed in the first half.

It's not that the cigar lacked flavor, but the bitterness was a strong component thereof.

Moroever, earlier on, I had a Punch short robusto that received a similar treatment (though with considerably more out-of-the box time), and it smoked fine.
 
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Sorry to hear. These are nice smokes. I think 10 might be a bit young for these smokes....imho
 
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Well, first up - which I should have done one post before - I'd like to thank everyone for their input.

I checked the travel humidor and it seems that the humidity is definitely too high. Most cigars are kinda squishy and too soft to the touch (interestingly, only the CCs, the NCs have kept their firmness). I'll shell out some dough for a decent hygrometer ASAP.

In the meantime - what's that about the too small opening? I'm asking because I tend to clip my cigars really close to the end of the head and this one had an exceptionally small opening. I'd say less than a third of the cigar's cross-section (the draw was fine, though).
 
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Well, thanks again for the advice. Lesson learnt, I guess. Though I gotta say, wasting a smoke like that puts me in a foul mood. It's not often that I get a chance to sit down and have a cigar, so a bad experience really sucks. Not to mention the price I paid for it (not the main criterion but the one missus understands the best).

Anyhow, I wanted to do a review so I was taking pictures as I smoked.



This one was taken when we were still friends. In the beginning, the Hoyo was very pleasant, to be frank. A bit on the spicy side (too spicy for retrohaling) but still an enjoyable smoke. I had a Croatian dark beer to go with it. A decent, malty drink which unfortunately didn't pair too well with the cigar once it turned bitter. The bitterness of the cigar seemed to really accentuate the bitterness of the beer and diminish all of the other components of the flavor.

I was reading The Simulacra by Philip K Dick in whihc, incidentally, the Israeli prime minister, who is toying with the idea of travelling back in time to strike a deal with Hermann Goering, is smoking Philipine hand made cigars (in the next chapter, a more down-to-earth character is smoking an upmann cigar). Funny how I didn't pick up these things when I read it the first time, when I wasn't smoking cigars yet.

This one is from when the cigar had turned harsh and bitter:



I was eating Dalmatian dried figs to battle the bitterness. It worked suprisingly well but even that wasn't enough to let me actually enjoy the cigar. By the way, I could pick up a grassy, vegetal flavor, much like from a RyJ purito (also something I don't really enjoy). At first it was sort of dilluted, burried int he mix but in the second third, that flavor became razor-sharp.

This is the outside of the house where I was treated badly (by the hoyo):



Though I gotta say, despite the harshness, I didn't feel sick (sick as in the feeling you have right before you vomit) by the end as I tend to do with a strong cigar.
 
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