A bit too moist.

[ichett]

Seems like my cigars a bit too moist.

I've made my self a wineador with a 12 bottle Danby wine cooler, mainly to keep temperature down during the summers. In it I have 2 half pound of HF 65% beads, one on the top shelf where I keep my loose cigars, and the other towards the rear near the fan. I also have 1 50 count humidor and a 25 count humidor, both with small 65% HF tubes, in the wineador.

Now my problem is, the cigars in the 50 and 25 count humidors seems a bit too moist/soft. The temp inside the humidors is around 65 and humidity fluctuate from 65-70%.

And I have multiple hygrometer, which have been calibrated with the boveda pack, all reporting similar numbers.

Any ideas?

 

[jmartins]

I would try and recalibrating the hygrometer again. I find that very odd. Another thing you could try doing is cycling the humidor cigars and the winedor cigars to keep a balance. Also if you have HF beads in the humidor take them out so they can dry out or put in dry ones to help out.


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[Chrisso]

ichett,

I agree with jmartins, recalibrate that hygrometer my friend. Just to double check. Also, I would buy the boveda calibration kit, just to ensure accuracy.

In the meantime, make sure and drybox your sticks before smokin them at the end of the day. It'll help with the harshness and bitterness.

Good luck!
-Chrisso

 

[ichett]

I have two recalibrating right now and ordered a new one just in case.

 

[Alwayslit]

I have two recalibrating right now and ordered a new one just in case.

Best thing to do

 

[TravelingJ]

Is your wine cooler plugged in already? If so you are likely seeing the results of it turning on. When the temperature changes, so will the humidity, hence the Relative in Relative Humidity.

 

[Anthony_Joseph]

How are they smoking?

 

[ichett]

I actually haven't smoked any of the ones that feels moist.

 

[ichett]

I just ordered a Johnson controller and going to pickup some slabs of cider to do this right.

 

[jabuan]

how long are you letting your smokes acclimate to the conditions in your wineador? i've recently discovered the sweetspot for my set up is 6-8 weeks.

 

[ichett]

how long are you letting your smokes acclimate to the conditions in your wineador? i've recently discovered the sweetspot for my set up is 6-8 weeks.

I don't know if that is my problem. Some of the my cigars that's been resting in my humidor within the wineador feel soft/moist. And these have been in there anywhere from a month to over a year.

 

[ichett]

I did some reorganizing in my wineador and I think that might have helped.

 

[jribs]

i have the same issues....if the cigars get too moist are they good for the garbage or do they just need to be put in a dry box or something?

 

[SquirrelofAnarchy]

i have the same issues....if the cigars get too moist are they good for the garbage or do they just need to be put in a dry box or something?

If they are just to wet for your liking you can dry box them or let them acclimate to a lower RH% they are good until they get mold or bone dry..

If they become way over humidified like scary wet then I would let them air out if any of the cigars have cedar sleeves take the sleeves off and out of cello let them air out dry out the cedar sleeve. What will happen if you get over humidified let's say you wake up put on your smoking jacket and velvet slippers walk over to the humidor and see 70+% then cedar sleeves will retain the moisture then release that moisture in the cello which creates a micro climate I believe this is why people see mold under the cedar sleeves because wherever the cigars were they were over humidified at one time and the sleeves weren't dried / aired out that is atleast my theory...


By the way I don't get all this dry boxing stuff that is being passed along on this forum.. I can understand having for example a nice box like Cohiba Behike box or tupperware etc with some 62% Bovedas in there for a dry box but I am cagey about just leaving them at a Erh of 45-50% for some none designated time frame... If you are like me you have several different containers storage coolers wineadors fridges with varying relative humidity then you don't really have to worry about dry boxing.. I am not knocking it just seems kinda weird because if you guys keep your humidors at the Erh you like then you shouldn't need to dry box stuff..

 

[e-dawg]

In the meantime, make sure and drybox your sticks before smokin them at the end of the day. It'll help with the harshness and bitterness.

Noob question...What is dryboxing? I could hazard an educated guess, but thought I'd just get it straight from the source? Also, is a lower RH at time of smoking a better smoke? I keep my sticks at 65% and practically smoke them right out of the box (within ten minutes or so).

 

[jonesry09]

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Noob question...What is dryboxing? I could hazard an educated guess, but thought I'd just get it straight from the source? Also, is a lower RH at time of smoking a better smoke? I keep my sticks at 65% and practically smoke them right out of the box (within ten minutes or so).[/QUOTE]


I'm in the same boat as you man... can't wait to read the responses. I usually open the wineador, close my eyes, and light up whatever I pick right away.

 

[jmartins]

Dry boxing is the process of taking a cigar that is to moist/over humidified and placing it in a other container with a lower RH. This way the cigar will slowly lower its RH to the desired smoking RH.

This can be done for multiple reasons I myself keep my humi at 69rh cause it gets opened and closed alot so the fluctuation isn't to low. Then I use an old Spanish cedar cigar box put them in there for a couple of hours to bring the RH down to 65RH and the burn is cleaner without issue. This happens to ppl who want to smoke a cigar right from a B&M as they have their humis set at a higher RH because ppl go in and out of it alot.

Bare in mind that if I pull a stick from the humi at 69RH I can smoke it right away as it isn't to wet to smoke.

Just my opinion on it. If I missed something one of the brothers will chime in.


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[e-dawg]

Dry boxing is the process of taking a cigar that is to moist/over humidified and placing it in a other container with a lower RH. This way the cigar will slowly lower its RH to the desired smoking RH.

This can be done for multiple reasons I myself keep my humi at 69rh cause it gets opened and closed alot so the fluctuation isn't to low. Then I use an old Spanish cedar cigar box put them in there for a couple of hours to bring the RH down to 65RH and the burn is cleaner without issue. This happens to ppl who want to smoke a cigar right from a B&M as they have their humis set at a higher RH because ppl go in and out of it alot.

Bare in mind that if I pull a stick from the humi at 69RH I can smoke it right away as it isn't to wet to smoke.

Just my opinion on it. If I missed something one of the brothers will chime in.


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Many thanks for the explanation. Makes perfect sense.

 

[e-dawg]

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