My first Tupperdore cigar tasted like wood

[jeffturneraz]

I just called 3 cigar shops in a row near me and nobody carries anything below 72 Boveda's.

I realize it is extremely dry here and maybe they are overcompensating for that, but everyone here seems to prefer the 65-70%.

This is confusing, you guys def know your stuff...those guys should know at least something assuming they were into it enough to open a shop.

Just a newbie trying to figure it all out.

Thanks for all the tips btw guys, really appreciate it.

 

[BrittS88]

Cigar King in Scottsdale should have them.

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[jeffturneraz]

Cigar King in Scottsdale should have them.

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They should have 65's?

Cool, I've been meaning to make a drive out to Cigar King one weekend to check it out.

I think it's odd that every shop I have called in the downtown/central area carries nothing but the 72's.

Makes me think that's what I'm supposed to use in my area almost, because 3 different shop owners all individually made the decision to carry only 1 Boveda RH, 72.

Hmm.

Either way I'm removing the cedar when I get home and one of the 2 Boveda packs. I'll have to learn things through trial and error I know.

There's a LP9 in there I really don't want to mess up along with a few others.

 

[Robertsndr68]

Go to to bovedas website, order 65% bovedas AND a hygrometer calibration kit. Solve alllll your problems.

Alternate plan, still go to bovedas website and buy a hygrometer calibration kit, then, go to HeartFelts website and buy 65% beads.

My local B&M owner SWEARS by 70% bovedas and I used to stay at 70% per his advice, and my cigars tasted like SHIT.
Drop the RH, solve all your problems.

 

[BrittS88]

Cigar King in Scottsdale should have them.

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They should have 65's?

Cool, I've been meaning to make a drive out to Cigar King one weekend to check it out.

I think it's odd that every shop I have called in the downtown/central area carries nothing but the 72's.

Makes me think that's what I'm supposed to use in my area almost, because 3 different shop owners all individually made the decision to carry only 1 Boveda RH, 72.

Hmm.

Either way I'm removing the cedar when I get home and one of the 2 Boveda packs. I'll have to learn things through trial and error I know.

There's a LP9 in there I really don't want to mess up along with a few others.

Yeah they carry most everything. Most shops carry 72s cause that is what's widely believed and what most customers will think is right. I guess it really is just a personal preference to use lower. You should be able to use one 72 boveda for about 30-40 sticks and be fine. I just prefer 65 for a tupperdor. There is no breathing in a tupperdor unless you open it . So keeping it around 65 RH works best for me. I use a 69 boveda in my 15 count desktop humi and it keeps that one around 67 cause it loses a Lilttle RH even when you don't open it.

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[jeffturneraz]

My local B&M owner SWEARS by 70% bovedas and I used to stay at 70% per his advice, and my cigars tasted like SHIT.

Ha, okay got it. 65 it is.

 

[jeffturneraz]

Go to to bovedas website, order 65% bovedas AND a hygrometer calibration kit. Solve alllll your problems.

Just placed my order for the above, appreciate the tips everybody.

 

[Robertsndr68]

good work man. they ship quick and securely and i'm always happy to do business with boveda. you made a great choice and your mind will be at ease haha

 

[jeffturneraz]

I don't know what's up with this tupperdor.
I got the 65 Boveda, along with the Boveda calibration kit, left my Xikar in there for 27 hrs, calibrated it, it was dead on 75. Threw it back in the tupperdor and it has rested on 58%.

Starting to think my hygro is defective.

 

[AdamJoshua]

Don't bother with beads for a tuperdor, just throw a bov pack in, with how high your humidity is I would throw a 62ish in there and store it in the coolest place you can find in your house, not only will eggs start to hatch at the 75 degree mark, but you can have other issues with your cigars at that temp/RH like exploding and cracking sticks when you smoke them. Best of luck!

 

[jeffturneraz]

No questions are dumb questions with the possible exception of this one.

Can I stick my tupperdor in my kitchen fridge? I understand my kitchen fridge has a compressor but if they are airtight in a tupperware. ..

Trying to solve my temp problem here.

 

[Cigary43]

No questions are dumb questions with the possible exception of this one.

Can I stick my tupperdor in my kitchen fridge? I understand my kitchen fridge has a compressor but if they are airtight in a tupperware. ..

Trying to solve my temp problem here.

As you said...no question is too dumb esp. when it concerns cigars. This question has been asked before concerning tupperadors because one would think that since they seal very well what's the harm in putting them into an environment that is much cooler to keep them cool? Well, the problem starts with the environment of a fridge because it's an element that really cools things at the temp of 33-36 degrees for food not to spoil. Some would think that cooler is better but not for cigars regardless of if they are in tupperware. Cigars need a 70/70 environment to thrive and having a temp of anything lower than 60 degrees is going to cause problems...thus refrigerators should not be used as a tool for storage. With the variance of your outside temps you might want to try using a cooler where you can regulate the RH inside a lot easier but that's another things. Your tupperware isn't the problem....recheck your hygro to ensure you are getting an accurate reading..( salt test ) and once that is done then you can deal with the type of media you want to use. Some work better than others and it's all about choice here...Boveda paks are good...beads are good..gels are good and KL is good but each has it's own performance. PM me for more info if you want...trying to solve these issues can be a real mindbender sometimes.

 

[jeffturneraz]

Ok thanks, I assumed my fridge might be in the 60s. Obviously my freezer is at least 32.

Thanks, I will PM you later as I have some questions about coolers and ways to lower temps in them.

 

[jeffturneraz]

Just an update.

I took into account all the advice from everyone on this thread. Got my RH down to, I'm almost positive, 65%. (Hygro has been showing 63 for a while now but I trust the Boveda)

The original issue I had was the overpowering wood taste. I started with 2 thin sheets of cedar, took that down to a half sheet, as there are only 7 sticks in there.

Anyway, just smoked my first out of the tupperdor since the original post. I chose the exact same cigar "scientific purposes" so-to-speak, and BINGO.

Cigar was perfect. Thanks to everyone who chimed in.

Lesson I learned besides keeping 65 RH...don't have it too moist but especially, don't have it too moist with 5 times more cedar than tobacco.

Thanks again guys.