Comador by Cohiba
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"Cîroc is distinguished from other vodkas by the fact that they derive it from grapes, rather than using corn, sorghum, rye, wheat, or potatoes. Since they distill the product at 96% and do not age it, it fulfills the qualities of a vodka."
Wow I didn't know that Jay-z was doing a collab with a cigar company. It is pretty cool. Me personally not a fan of either Jay-z or NC Cohiba but someone as big as Jay-z promoting cigars at any extent is only good for us. He is bring this beautiful art we enjoy to ppl who may not have seen it before. Yes the price maybe steep but no one should be looking at the negative here but rather the positive as someone with such a big rep is pushing for cigars will help us fight back against laws against cigars I am just saying.
Or the opposite and it could be used by Politicos saying this is influencing kids to take up smoking. Just saying...
I think you're assuming the worst, which is unlikely. I don't think politicos will be closely following this. Most B&Ms wouldn't sell a cigar to someone under 18. Also, Jay-Z's branding isn't necessarily aimed at teens. He markets to people in their 20's and 30's as well as those are the people who grew up listening to his music. He's been in the rap game for almost 20 years, and a lot of those people still buy his music and products 20 years later.
There is simply no way I could justify $30 on a product from General Cigar. Having said that the idea for these is cool, and I love the presentation as it is among the best I have seen. The cigar carrying tin is totally awesome but in no way worth the money they are asking for it, of course. Still, you would look like a baller pulling that out of your golf bag and selecting a smoke on the links or going to a New Years party and ripping that out of your coat party for a post midnight New Year celebratory smoke. I hope to read a review on these because I would like to know what people would rate them at.
Sorry to drive this thread off topic, but your experience doesn't reflect the reality of the situation IMO. Let's be real...prices on Liga in general are going up. 3 years ago I could find 5 Liga #9 robustos on Joe's Jam for $35....$7 a cigar. DE doesn't want their product discounted much though so they changed the way the contracts are structured and now they cant be sold for more than a 10% discount. I could also walk into a B&M 2-3 years ago and pick up LP robusto for 9.50. That same product now costs about 12.50 at my local B&M that I usually smoke at. I know I can find better deals around if I want to grab a box but in general if I show up and smoke somewhere $12+ for a single robusto is the price. A 3 buck increase in 3 years or less is nothing to sneeze at. (Over $5 if you include the insane low prices of Joe's Jam) A lot of people constantly come to DEs defense in things like this and say things like "the price increase is small, its not a big deal." Well guess what, by that logic there's been 6 "small" price increases and its starting to add up. Its went from the best cigar I've ever had for the money at $7 to about the limit of value to enjoyment ratio at $12.50. I love Liga products, but I wont be paying more than $15 for one with any regularity. Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.
+1 to everything said.
DE makes a great product, but if they keep coming out with all these new product lines and buying all these small company's, pretty soon they are going to be another General Cigar. Sticks that are good but overpriced. Then as they come out with new products, nobody will look at them, even if they are good.
Just on the DE website it says they have 15 different product lines.
Seems like DE is all about making money anymore. I'd love to know how Famous can sell a box of No.9s for $220. My local B&M can't come close to matching it. On top of that the shit that Famous & CI can give away in free product is outrageous! I have a good idea on what my local B&M spends on DE products and he gets shit from them to give out to his loyal customers.
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Mike, how old are you if you don't mind me asking? This could be a generational thing for some people. I know a lot of cigar smokers in their 50s and 60s might not be interested, because Jay-Z may not peak their interest due to a generational gap. I could imagine cigar smokers in their 20s and 30s being attracted to the cigar, because they have an affinity for Jay-Z. Not every cigar (or most products in general) are made to target every demographic pr every type of cigar smoker. With a limited production run they obviously don't need every cigar smoker to buy it, in order to be a success.
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To be completely honest I would probably be that guy who did that lol. But I like that type of music and so it'd be more of just a curiosity purchase. I'd also assume it would be decent as Jay smokes a lot of cigars and also doesn't want his name affiliated with something that's a bad product.
There is already a $30 DR Cohiba called Diamanté that has sold pretty well for me. I love having high end products to offer those willing to pay the extra money. Outside of Padron and Davidoff there's not too much else, so I'm excited to see how the Jay Z cigar does. If it drives some new people into the hobby, it's only good. Those people can try The Comador and then smoke Padron Liga Fuente Davidoff etc.
I get that it's not for everyone, but if it's a good cigar marketed correctly it will be good for business.
I get that it's not for everyone, but if it's a good cigar marketed correctly it will be good for business.
I'm forty years old. I'm not saying they won't sell these cigars but im sure it will be a very limited market. I have an older school mindset when it comes to cigar smoking and the traditions and history that come with it. I know with time comes change but it's dissapointing to me to see all of the skulls, guns, monsters, devils and other craziness that this industry is creating these days. This hobby and lifestyle used to be all about class and the experience that came with these luxury products. Before someone jumps, I'm not saying people that purchase these don't have class. Smoke what you like but I think it's going a little to far and I really hope this is a passing trend.
Can't justify spending it on a red dot. I'd imagine it's not horrible, but that's 1966 money... Which would you honestly rather have?
The single tube case is trick looking, and for what it's made from and the style I can understand the cost on it, but I wouldn't bother with it.
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The single tube case is trick looking, and for what it's made from and the style I can understand the cost on it, but I wouldn't bother with it.
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I'm with you on the more traditional design of cigars and marketing, but there is a cigar tailored to every different group or niche. I've smoked a wide variety of stuff, but I personally like the labels and boxes that are more classic in style. However, if a cigar is good, I'll buy regardless of the design. Like I said before, I'll wait to hear feedback on the new Jay-Z cigar before I consider buying it. My hesitation has more to do with the fact that I am not a fan of the Cohiba red dot brands. If I hear good feedback I'll consider smoking it.
It's not personal. If you like these types of things that's perfectly fine. I have plenty of friends that are into it as well.Not commenting on what fireman said