Cigar Keeps Goin Out?

[Ethan]

Gents

Keep having this problem it seems like. For some reason on lots of my sticks they keep going out and I am relighting several times throughout the smoke. (All have been on my CCs but all different kinds)

They are either from my wineador at 65/65 or tupperdors with 65 boveda. Any thoughts??

 

[erjaq]

Well, my first thought was too much humidity. If you're sure that you're at 65%, then maybe just a bad run?

 

[Trackmyer]

Your cigars are stored at great RH but what is the weather like where you are smoking, is it pretty humid where you smoke?

 

[Jaybird]

Your cigars are stored at great RH but what is the weather like where you are smoking, is it pretty humid where you smoke?

Looks like So Cal...



I was thinking humidity also. I started a thread somewhere, probably Puff about my fear of my cigar going out...LOL

Most came back to humidity.

Cheers
Jay

 

[atbat82]

You've probably checked, but you sure you're hygrometer is calibrated right? Is this a new problem? Have the cigars rested long enough?

 

[SailorAg]

Maybe try dry boxing the sticks before smoking them?

 

[atbat82]

Maybe try dry boxing the sticks before smoking them?

That's a real good tip. It will at least dry out the wrapper a little which should help

 

[ChiefIlliniwek]

How often are you taking draws?

 

[ENV]

Draw consistency
outside humidity
stored humidity
roller and leaf issues

All of the above can contribute to this issue. I have had cigars explode because I took them from 65/65 and took them outside where humidity was 80-90%

It all depends. I would say calibrate your hygrometer.

 

[Trackmyer]

Dry boxing would probably make it worse, not better.

If you are confident its not your storage. Then the outside humidity has to be higher than the 65 its stored at. DO this.

Next time you want to smoke, pull the cigar from storage, take the cello off (if it has one). Place it in an ashtray or cigar holder and let it set at least a 1/2 hour before lighting. You need to allow the cigar to get a tad more equal to the RH you are smoking at.

As another brother taught me a while back " SMOKE HOW YOU LIVE! "

Cigars grown, harvested, cured, rolled, rested... in the tropics - 80F and 80RH, smoke GREAT... IN THE TROPICS!

Cigars brought to Manhattan, allowed to rest at the relative temps and Rh of Manhattan, smoke GREAT in Manhattan.

Point being, let this LIVING THING find it's place in the place you want to interact with it. Get it, or LET it get as close to stasis in the environment in which you plan to interact with it.

It's really pretty simple if you think about it.

 

[Ethan]

Thanks for all the input guys!

I have two xikar hygrometers that I was meticulous in calculating a few months ago (did each twice) but I will do them again to make sure.

Definitely don't drybox on a regular basis and I'm going to try that more often.

All makes sense. Will try letting them sit out where I will be smoking for a bit first...

 

[Lipher]

Get 62%

 

[Ducttapegonewild]

Dry boxing would probably make it worse, not better.

If you are confident its not your storage. Then the outside humidity has to be higher than the 65 its stored at. DO this.

Next time you want to smoke, pull the cigar from storage, take the cello off (if it has one). Place it in an ashtray or cigar holder and let it set at least a 1/2 hour before lighting. You need to allow the cigar to get a tad more equal to the RH you are smoking at.

As another brother taught me a while back " SMOKE HOW YOU LIVE! "

Cigars grown, harvested, cured, rolled, rested... in the tropics - 80F and 80RH, smoke GREAT... IN THE TROPICS!

Cigars brought to Manhattan, allowed to rest at the relative temps and Rh of Manhattan, smoke GREAT in Manhattan.

Point being, let this LIVING THING find it's place in the place you want to interact with it. Get it, or LET it get as close to stasis in the environment in which you plan to interact with it.

It's really pretty simple if you think about it.

Now, I'm not having issues with cigars going out, but I am reading that if I live in a drier environment, smoke drier gars and if I live in a humid area to smoke moist gars? How dry is too dry and how wet is too wet? Should there be a range to keep my gars at?

 

[StogieGuy55]

Dry boxing would probably make it worse, not better.

If you are confident its not your storage. Then the outside humidity has to be higher than the 65 its stored at. DO this.

Next time you want to smoke, pull the cigar from storage, take the cello off (if it has one). Place it in an ashtray or cigar holder and let it set at least a 1/2 hour before lighting. You need to allow the cigar to get a tad more equal to the RH you are smoking at.

As another brother taught me a while back " SMOKE HOW YOU LIVE! "

Cigars grown, harvested, cured, rolled, rested... in the tropics - 80F and 80RH, smoke GREAT... IN THE TROPICS!

Cigars brought to Manhattan, allowed to rest at the relative temps and Rh of Manhattan, smoke GREAT in Manhattan.

Point being, let this LIVING THING find it's place in the place you want to interact with it. Get it, or LET it get as close to stasis in the environment in which you plan to interact with it.

It's really pretty simple if you think about it.

I don't know how true this us but it sure as hell makes sense when I read it. I started dry boxing for a day before I smoke and it really has made a huge difference. Draw, burn and flavor are all improved. And since I live in SoCal(superDry) Trackmyer's logic holds up, the dry box is just helping get my cigar closer to the rh of the environment I'm gonna smoke in.

 

[Cigary43]

Burn issues can usually be attributed to RH...after this it goes to how one smokes their cigars...too slow and you'll flame out. When you drop your first ash look at what happens....is it conical or does it invert...if it's inverted you'll know automatically that the wrapper is still too high in RH. A good cigar when burning should always have a conical shape to the burn when you tap your ash. People usually aren't attentive to what their ash is doing....it tells you a lot about the cigar. I'd let any cigar you purchase sit in your humidor for 30 days to let it acclimate to a pure 65% RH and too many people will dive in and smoke their cigars within a few days and then talk about burn problems. Patience....

 

[Trackmyer]

Dry boxing would probably make it worse, not better.

If you are confident its not your storage. Then the outside humidity has to be higher than the 65 its stored at. DO this.

Next time you want to smoke, pull the cigar from storage, take the cello off (if it has one). Place it in an ashtray or cigar holder and let it set at least a 1/2 hour before lighting. You need to allow the cigar to get a tad more equal to the RH you are smoking at.

As another brother taught me a while back " SMOKE HOW YOU LIVE! "

Cigars grown, harvested, cured, rolled, rested... in the tropics - 80F and 80RH, smoke GREAT... IN THE TROPICS!

Cigars brought to Manhattan, allowed to rest at the relative temps and Rh of Manhattan, smoke GREAT in Manhattan.

Point being, let this LIVING THING find it's place in the place you want to interact with it. Get it, or LET it get as close to stasis in the environment in which you plan to interact with it.

It's really pretty simple if you think about it.

Now, I'm not having issues with cigars going out, but I am reading that if I live in a drier environment, smoke drier gars and if I live in a humid area to smoke moist gars? How dry is too dry and how wet is too wet? Should there be a range to keep my gars at?

Sorry I didnt see this sooner. Still adjusting to a forum that doesn't notify you when you've been quoted.

This statement instructed to me was not so much as how to store your cigars long term as much as it was a primer to smoking one that has been brought out of your storage.

Industry has told for decades to store at 70/70.
The majority of long term cigar smokers would say they prefer a 64-67%rh for most NC's and 60-63%rh for CC's. Though some hard cores may even get more specific per cigar manufacturer and line.

I store mine as close to 65/65 as possible. It seems to be a good even RH for both.

Yet often when I want to enjoy a cigar its humid out. In these cases if I were to pull a stick out of storage and try to light and smoke within minutes of being out in environment, chances are it will start getting a tad tight to draw and start going out. Requiring multiple relights and much frustration on my part.

However, if I pull that same stick out, unwrap it from cello. Place it in on a rest or ashtray and walk away for a hour or two to do something else. When I go to light it, I will find it smokes better, draw stays good and very rarely ever needs a touch up. The cigar is not getting to ambient RH in so little a time,but it is enough time to buffer it some.

 

[sofc]

I get notifications when I'm quoted but it might be a setting I adjusted years ago

 

[Cigary43]

If you subscribe to a thread you should get a notification by email...it's in your settings.

 

[Trackmyer]

I get notifications when I'm quoted but it might be a setting I adjusted years ago

If you subscribe to a thread you should get a notification by email...it's in your settings.

Thanks guys I will start the hunt to try and find those settings.

 

[sofc]

See, I got notified and am responding