While I agree that a back-to-back review would be perfect, I'm left wondering how many non-objective posts we'll see from you. At this point, wouldn't it be better to leave "I hate Drew Estate" in your sig and move along?Thats swishers printing machines. Smoke the two back to back and tell me how much shittier the new UF-13 is.
Thanks for the info. I'm not worried, just curious. I'm actually not a UF-13 fan unless they are more than a year old.I know DE has changed their font on a number of blends. IIRC, the blends have remained mostly the same. I wouldn't worry about it, personally.
I like the UF-13 dark. I just hate some of the stupidity they do and the amount of dick riding that goes on with DE. I wouldnt want to put that in my signature as it will give them exposure with every post I make.While I agree that a back-to-back review would be perfect, I'm left wondering how many non-objective posts we'll see from you. At this point, wouldn't it be better to leave "I hate Drew Estate" in your sig and move along?
My guess? They've become popular. This they've become an easy target to hate on. Personally, not my cup of tea and some of their marketing/HTF status is annoying, but oh well.I know I've been away for a few months, but damn there is a lot more DE hatred going around these days. Not that long ago you couldn't say a bad thing about DE without a few diehard fanboys losing their shit, what gives?
I think I came into the game too late for DE. Every one I have tried except for OR UF-13 Dark have been awful.I know I've been away for a few months, but damn there is a lot more DE hatred going around these days. Not that long ago you couldn't say a bad thing about DE without a few diehard fanboys losing their shit, what gives?
And about the font, I'm sorry to say that it blows donkey balls. I liked the old one way more but maybe it'll grow on me.
While I am not a DE fanboy, there are a few that I enjoy. However, I have to question, what truth are you talking about? If it's the taste, then how can that be a truth when it's subjective?I think I came into the game too late for DE. Every one I have tried except for OR UF-13 Dark have been awful.
That being said I am also surprised the fanboys havent come marching against the guys who speak the truth about DE> I am guessing they are starting to see (taste) the light (caca)
I'm no fan boy.... I also can think for myself. How is bashing a company or owner conveying you don't like the product. Don't like it don't buy it. But why constantly troll every DE thread?I think I came into the game too late for DE. Every one I have tried except for OR UF-13 Dark have been awful.
That being said I am also surprised the fanboys havent come marching against the guys who speak the truth about DE> I am guessing they are starting to see (taste) the light (caca)
I wouldn't waste my time and money bombing a troll.Note to self: do not bomb ENV DE sticks....Check. Lol.
Do you even know the definition of an internet troll or do you just throw around popular words that may mean something you are trying to say? I am a troll because I have an opinion that differs from yours? I am not deliberately stating my opinion to upset you.I wouldn't waste my time and money bombing a troll.
LOL I can provide you the addresses for MANY targets brotha. I dont have a need for bombs hahaha.Note to self: do not bomb ENV DE sticks....Check. Lol.
This I can agree with. It is an opinion when it comes to taste. So touche on that.While I am not a DE fanboy, there are a few that I enjoy. However, I have to question, what truth are you talking about? If it's the taste, then how can that be a truth when it's subjective?
I think he referred to you as a troll because you have STRONGLY voiced your opinion (which I agree you are entitled to) on nearly every thread about DE in the last few months. If you don't like them, then move along. I mean, I don't like Hockey, but when there's a hockey thread I don't make it a point to post in that thread to say how much I hate hockey. That would serve only one purpose and that would be to upset those who do like hockey, thus, fulfilling the definition of a troll..........just my .0000002 (For the record, I have never had a DE stick I liked. There are some I haven't tried, so the jury is still out on those...)Look I do not like DE products, I have a right to my opinion. I am not a troll as a matter of fact I smoke some good stuff and some bad. I dont like DE because of certain business practices which I dont need to get into on here because as has been shown, the cavalry shows up. This is a forum for MEN. No need to get all upset and insulting because I state I do not like a company because thier current product line is no good (which many people agree with).
Look man...I wouldn't say that I'm a Drew Estate fan; I don't really like any of their cigars right out of the box except for the Dirty Rat. But that doesn't mean that I don't want to learn new stuff about cigars and see if anyone has info on this change. If you want to complain about DE, go create a "I hate DE" thread and talk to yourself about it instead of blowing up an information learning thread.Thats swishers printing machines. Smoke the two back to back and tell me how much shittier the new UF-13 is.