What does that mean?
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THEMISCHMAN
SGT Hulka
Here's an interesting article that contradicts the meaning having anything to do with falconry.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/under-the-thumb.html
Shoot, I can do that one without looking anything up. It's a way to excuse one's self, without an explanation. You're basically saying, "I have to go, and I'm not telling you why, as it would be embarrassing, unsavory, or none of your business. It also became a popular expression to say that you where going to the racetrack in order to bet.
Here's mine. Bless her/his heart.
Edited to add - opps, sorry, looks like mine was a little late.
Bless her heart. Southern origin, with more than one meaning.
Can be a sign of empathy..." He broke his arm, bless his heart."
Can refer to a dumb person..." he can't add 2+2, bless his heart."
Can be a polite way of not saying something mean.." George just can't seem to get along with people...bless his heart."
Here is mine: God willing and the creek don't rise
Can be a sign of empathy..." He broke his arm, bless his heart."
Can refer to a dumb person..." he can't add 2+2, bless his heart."
Can be a polite way of not saying something mean.." George just can't seem to get along with people...bless his heart."
Here is mine: God willing and the creek don't rise
disregardverbAnnie disregarded the remark: ignore, take no notice of, pay no attention/heed to; overlook, turn a blind eye to, turn a deaf ear to, shut one's eyes to, gloss over, brush aside, shrug off; informal sneeze at.ANTONYMS heed.nounblithe disregard for the rules: indifference, nonobservance, inattention, heedlessness, neglect.ANTONYMS attention.
Haha I posted and someone else had answered so I deleted my post - disregard my post
Me personally... I like the idea of "rule of leg"
The 'rule of thumb' has been said to derive from the belief that English law allowed a man to beat his wife with a stick so long as it is was no thicker than his thumb. In 1782, Judge Sir Francis Buller is reported as having made this legal ruling and in the following year James Gillray published a satirical cartoon attacking Buller and caricaturing him as 'Judge Thumb'. The cartoon shows a man beating a fleeing woman and Buller carrying two bundles of sticks. The caption reads "thumbsticks - for family correction: warranted lawful!"
It seems that Buller was hard done by. He was notoriously harsh in his punishments and had a reputation for arrogance, but there's no evidence that he ever made the ruling that he is infamous for. Edward Foss, in his authoritative work The Judges of England, 1870, wrote that, despite a searching investigation, "no substantial evidence has been found that he ever expressed so ungallant an opinion".
It's certainly the case that, although British common law once held that it was legal for a man to chastise his wife in moderation (whatever that meant), the 'rule of thumb' has never been the law in England.
Even if people mistakenly supposed the law to exist, there's no reason to believe that anyone ever called it the 'rule of thumb'. Despite the phrase being in common use since the 17th century and appearing many thousands of times in print, there are no printed records that associate it with domestic violence until the 1970s, when the notion was castigated by feminists. The responses that circulated then, which assumed the wife-beating law to be true, may have been influenced by Gillray's cartoon or were possibly a reaction to The Rolling Stones' song 'Under My Thumb', which was recorded in 1966.
The phrase itself has been in circulation since the 1600s. In 1692, it appeared in print in Sir William Hope's training manual for aspiring swordsmen, The Compleat Fencing-master:
"What he doth, he doth by rule of Thumb, and not by Art."
The origin of the phrase remains unknown. It is likely that it refers to one of the numerous ways that thumbs have been used to estimate things - judging the alignment or distance of an object by holding the thumb in one's eye-line, the temperature of brews of beer, measurement of an inch from the joint to the nail to the tip, or across the thumb, etc. The phrase joins the whole nine yards as one that probably derives from some form of measurement but which is unlikely ever to be definitively pinned down. The Germans have a similar phrase to indicate a rough approximation - 'pi mal daumen' which translates as 'pi [3.14…] times thumb'.
The earliest such 'measurement' use that I can find referred to in print is in a journal of amusing tales with the comprehensive title of Witt's Recreations - Augmented with Ingenious Conceites for the Wittie and Merrie Medicines for the Melancholic. It was published in 1640 and contains this rhyme:
If Hercules tall stature might be guess'd
But by his thumb, the index of the rest,
In due proportion, the best rule that I
Would chuse, to measure Venus beauty by,
Should be her leg and foot:
The 'rule of leg' never caught on.
Smoqman
BoM Aug. 2014
That's you, soon.
Now this is funny.