Tupperdore/Boveda - why so humid?

[Bearclaw]

Just received a digital hygrometer and tested it with the salt test. It was reading 76% so I adjusted it down one notch.

Now I have the hygro in with a 72% Boveda in my tupperdore, and it's reading a steady 75%. I opened it a few times, let the humidity drop, and it always comes back to 75.

Is it common for Bovedas to run moist, or am I possibly dealing with a squirrely hygrometer?

 

[FH Finster]

Just received a digital hygrometer and tested it with the salt test. It was reading 76% so I adjusted it down one notch.

Now I have the hygro in with a 72% Boveda in my tupperdore, and it's reading a steady 75%. I opened it a few times, let the humidity drop, and it always comes back to 75.View attachment 62819

Is it common for Bovedas to run moist, or am I possibly dealing with a squirrely hygrometer?

Squirrely hygeometer is my guess. The boveda is a giant salt test as far as I understand it. A precise mixture of salt and water to maintain the desired humidity.
http://www.bovedainc.com/technology/

 

[SailorAg]

Boveda packs guarantee that they will hold humidity within +/- 2% of the listed rH.

 

[bdc30]

Where's @sofc when you need him?

 

[FH Finster]

Boveda packs guarantee that they will hold humidity within +/- 4% of the listed rH.

My Boveda have been frighteningly dead on. I love these things.

 

[eastcoast paul]

Maybe the cigars are giving of moisture faster then the boveda can absorb quickly. Try the boveda and hygro without the cigars to see if it is reading high.

 

[sofc]

Where's @sofc when you need him?

I don't get the notifications but I definitely am beginning to develop a strong dislike for you B2

 

[Angry Bill]

Take this into account. You are putting cigars into an airtight container, which or may not contain moisture in the cigars. You are then adding a boveda with a specific humidity into the container and sealing it. If there is excessive moisture inside the container when it is sealed, you will have a higher level of humidity than the Bovedas, which do not remove moisture, just maintain it at a specific level.

Easy way to resolve is add some dry beads or break the seal every few days. Th humidity level will level off, but remember for long term storage, a Tupperware is not the perfect storage. Hope that explains a little.

 

[bdc30]

Bill I think the bovedas advertise themselves as 'two way' humidity control so they should be able to extract moisture to a certain extent anyway (also why you're able to rehumidify a dried out one). Obviously it won't happen right away though. Maybe best to leave it for a few days and check back.

(and really Ara you're only just starting to develop a strong dislike for me now?? lol)

 

[sofc]

Bill I think the bovedas advertise themselves as 'two way' humidity control so they should be able to extract moisture to a certain extent anyway (also why you're able to rehumidify a dried out one). Obviously it won't happen right away though. Maybe best to leave it for a few days and check back.

(and really Ara you're only just starting to develop a strong dislike for me now?? lol)

It was a dislike before, now it's a strong one.

 

[herfdog]

my guess: 2% off is not abnormal. if you want lower, try 69% bovedas

 

[Bearclaw]

Thanks for the replies Gentlemen.

I have a 69% Boveda as well, just placed the hygro in a ziplock with the 69'er for a test. Will check it in the morning.

If that one checks out I'm planning to do the same test with the 72 for grins.

It'll give me something to experiment with! I'll post my results when they come in.

May indeed be that the cigars are giving off moisture, but they've been in there for 2 weeks (opened 6-8 times), so I didn't expect that to be the case. I'm a newbie though, I guess I shouldn't form expectations just yet

 

[Bearclaw]

I can live with 2%, I just felt that 75 was too high particularly with our warm southern temps. (I opened the lid just before the pic and it dropped to 74 as I was taking the photo) am I being paranoid?

A tobacconist at my local b&m suggested the 72. If I confirm the hygro, and can't get the RH below 75, I'm going to switch to a lower RH Boveda. Mold is a concern to me.

 

[sofc]

I can live with 2%, I just felt that 75 was too high particularly with our warm southern temps. (I opened the lid just before the pic and it dropped to 74 as I was taking the photo) am I being paranoid?

A tobacconist at my local b&m suggested the 72. If I confirm the hygro, and can't get the RH below 75, I'm going to switch to a lower RH Boveda. Mold is a concern to me.

yes, you're being paranoid (but that's normal, just look at all similar posts like this. People go through this all the time.) Just relax and let the boveda do it's work. Do you open the oven every 2 minutes to see if your cake is done?

 

[herfdog]

Thanks for the replies Gentlemen.

I have a 69% Boveda as well, just placed the hygro in a ziplock with the 69'er for a test. Will check it in the morning.

If that one checks out I'm planning to do the same test with the 72 for grins.

It'll give me something to experiment with! I'll post my results when they come in.

May indeed be that the cigars are giving off moisture, but they've been in there for 2 weeks (opened 6-8 times), so I didn't expect that to be the case. I'm a newbie though, I guess I shouldn't form expectations just yet

if the sticks are indeed overhumidified, that might be cause for issues. But I'd think 2 weeks is good enough.

 

[JuzCallMeDee]

salt test may not be exact. i rather calibrate with the boveda calibration package.

 

[Bearclaw]

yes, you're being paranoid (but that's normal, just look at all similar posts like this. People go through this all the time.) Just relax and let the boveda do it's work. Do you open the oven every 2 minutes to see if your cake is done?

Hahaha! Point taken. I'll chill out.

And I don't bake cakes, I prefer pastries.

Sorry if I'm getting post happy. I'll search more next time, before starting a new thread.

 

[sofc]

Hahaha! Point taken. I'll chill out.

And I don't bake cakes, I prefer pastries.

Sorry if I'm getting post happy. I'll search more next time, before starting a new thread.

I'm not subtle, if I thought you should have, I would have told you. Post away, that's what we're here for.

 

[THEMISCHMAN]

65% Boveda's or 65% Beads are what I use. I have even put some cedar from empty boxes in there to help regulate the RH. You could also buy a Spanish cedar Boveda holder from Amazon. It takes some time but I always put my trust in the humidification I use rather than the hygrometer. I also judge my humidity by how the cigars are smoking.

 

[Angry Bill]

Brent, you are right, Bovedas can rehydrate themselves, but it takes a long time to do so. My personal experience in rehydrating them is it takes over a month and that is not a complete rehydrate. I use distillery water held in a shot glass inside a ziplock bag. Usually there are several different aged rehydrated packs inside the bag. I use this method on the small ones as this in an excellent size to use in travel humidors and find this as the most consistent method of rehydrating them,