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sofc

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Because they don't like the blend or because the "quality has deteriorated"? Seems like you might be sounding off on hearsay rather than personal experience.
I think I said that it was mostly hearsay. (I've smoke some in the past few years but maybe 10-30 so not enough to form a "valid" opinion according to some.)

Having said that if the same cigar which is purported to have the same blend is not the same and does not smoke the same, you can form your own opinions.
 
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I think I said that it was mostly hearsay. (I've smoke some in the past few years but maybe 10-30 so not enough to form a "valid" opinion according to some.)

Having said that if the same cigar which is purported to have the same blend is not the same and does not smoke the same, you can form your own opinions.
Fair enough.
 
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Their original Holiday Blend was the bees knees! But, as I stated before, they rode that LE idiom into the ground and too many of them were middle of the road sticks at best then a number of sticks entered the marketplace at equal to or lesser price points that pushed them further and further down the cigar food chain.
 

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Their original Holiday Blend was the bees knees! But, as I stated before, they rode that LE idiom into the ground and too many of them were middle of the road sticks at best then a number of sticks entered the marketplace at equal to or lesser price points that pushed them further and further down the cigar food chain.
The new jar is cool. But heard bad things about the sticks.
 

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Fuck yeah! I picked up some surrogates also hoping for the best.
Surrogates are good. ELO from New Havana are very good. All the L'Atelier sticks I've tried (pretty much all of them) are great at their pricepoint.
 

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So I decided to light up the holiday blend today. It's been too long to remember what the old ones were like but this is still a solid little stick.
 
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