That popping sound you hear...

[sdbassman]

Not in particular that I know of. But any cigar *can*.

Right, understood. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[Zmilin]

Damn it! This is why you stay away from whores! LOL

 

[manbearpig]

I have a vat of liquid nitrogen. I dunk all of my cigars in that for 3 weeks. They taste like total shit and I think they might be damaging my brain a little. But I have still not had a beetle outbreak.

 

[herfdog]

Yeah yeah I know a lot of manufacturers freeze their sticks. But if it did no damage we'd all have freezadors

I do believe it removes oils. They can evaporate in cold.

Thats why it stays in the freezer just long enough to kill the critters... Keeping it in the freezer for too long would be similar to keeping them too dry, and for the same reasons.

But, to each their own.


In my country, we use the postal service and weather to get rid of them beetles. ROFL.

 

[ThatsMrDrunkToYou]

...
Beetle egg.

that's protein bro, keep smoking

 

[sofc]

Thats why it stays in the freezer just long enough to kill the critters... Keeping it in the freezer for too long would be similar to keeping them too dry, and for the same reasons.

But, to each their own.


In my country, we use the postal service and weather to get rid of them beetles. ROFL.

Seeing as how many "experts" disagree on how long and at what temperature, how can we figure out exactly how long that is?

 

[Smokin Aces]

I've been smoking and storing my own stash since University (graduated in 04) and have never put a single cigar in the freezer and have only ever seen a beetle hole in one cigar that was given to me by a friend that I suspect doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to proper stogie storage. I tossed it immediately before it even got close to my stash which I keep in a temperature controlled winedor. Maybe I've been lucky to this point. I do check and rotate my stash frequently and watch my temp and humidity levels pretty closely.

 

[Senor Perfecto]

I've been smoking and storing my own stash since University (graduated in 04) and have never put a single cigar in the freezer and have only ever seen a beetle hole in one cigar that was given to me by a friend that I suspect doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to proper stogie storage. I tossed it immediately before it even got close to my stash which I keep in a temperature controlled winedor. Maybe I've been lucky to this point. I do check and rotate my stash frequently and watch my temp and humidity levels pretty closely.

Exactly my situation, brother.

 

[herfdog]

Seeing as how many "experts" disagree on how long and at what temperature, how can we figure out exactly how long that is?

I trust @ssaka in there

http://www.botl.org/index.php?posts/1578591

The whole point is to keep them long enough to rid yourself from the beetle or eggs, without keeping them so long as to dry them out.

A few days is good; a few months isn't.

 

[Almi]

Found this chart on another site. I also converted to Fahrenheit.

Freezing to kill pest.

Egg

-4 F / -20 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 1 hr

5 F / -15 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 4 hr

14 F / -10 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 12 hr

23 F / -5 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 48 hr

32 F / 0 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 240 hr

41 / 5 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 336 hr

Larval

-4 F / -20 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 1 hr

5 F / -15 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 3 hr

14 F / -10 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 12 hr

23 F / -5 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 96 hr

32 F / 0 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 288 hr

41 F / 5 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 336 hr

Acclimated Larval (acclimated at 59 F / 15 Celsius for 3 months to determine acclimation impact if any)

-4 F / -20 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 1 hr

5 F / -15 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 6 hr

14 F / -10 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 24 hr

23 F / -5 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 504 hr

32 F / 0 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 1176 hr

41 F / 5 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 1680 hr


Pupal

-4 F / -20 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 1 hr

5 F / -15 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 4 hr

14 F / -10 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 48 hr

23 F / -5 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 288 hr

32 F / 0 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 840 hr

Adult

-4 F / -20 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 1 hr

5F / -15 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 2 hr

14 F / -10 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 2 hr

23 F / -5 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 72 hr

32 F / 0 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 288 hr

41 F / 5 degrees C Time to 100% mortality 840 hr

 

[sofc]

I trust @ssaka in there

http://www.botl.org/index.php?posts/1578591

The whole point is to keep them long enough to rid yourself from the beetle or eggs, without keeping them so long as to dry them out.

A few days is good; a few months isn't.

I never freeze my cigars but back in the mid nineties my brother in law brought back some Cohibas. Being a non smoker type, he put them in a freezer for almost a year. He gave them to me and I was able to rehydrate them. On par with the best cigars I've ever had.

 

[herfdog]

I never freeze my cigars but back in the mid nineties my brother in law brought back some Cohibas. Being a non smoker type, he put them in a freezer for almost a year. He gave them to me and I was able to rehydrate them. On par with the best cigars I've ever had.

I am surprised that cigars are still in great shape after that long in a freezer, I would have thought they'd have been ruined. thanks for sharing that!

 

[sofc]

I am surprised that cigars are still in great shape after that long in a freezer, I would have thought they'd have been ruined. thanks for sharing that!

I wouldn't recommend it as I might have got lucky.

 

[Bruce T.]

I freeze all my cigars for a few days. I personally don't believe that it affects the oils or the moisture content. The reason being that they are sealed in a ziplock and therefore the environment is totally stable, other than the ambient temperature.
But to each his own brothers.

 

[herfdog]

that's protein bro, keep smoking

Do you gain anything from smoking proteins?

 

[OtismyMan]

Do you gain anything from smoking proteins?

Yes, bigger muscles