Adventures in home rolling
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You first couple sessions are looking great brother. Far better than my first attempts that's for sure. Keep it up!Wow, some gorgeous sticks you guys are posting.
Decided to try round two tonight, with the 35 ring gauge mold.
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The leaf sitis out for a day or so to air out any remaining ammonia etc.It wont dry out much during that time.The filler then goes back into the kil where it dries out quite quickly.The wrapper is left to air dry slowly. It takes way longer to dry out after the kiln than it normally would.I think it has something to do with the oil content.
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I love the almost "spooky" affect of this pic.Very cool.Wow, some gorgeous sticks you guys are posting.
Decided to try round two tonight, with the 35 ring gauge mold.
I calculate 75 cents apiece for my standard perfectos. That's not a guess; that's calculated.
Here's how it comes out so thrifty: I roll 5 1/4" 50rg perfectos. That's the main thing. I use a mold, and I make a bunch which will just fit that mold. So there's no loose ends to chop with a tuck cutter. It's all in the feel of the bunch in your fist. A perfecto matches the natural shape of the leaf. This means there is virtually no wasted leaf at all. When you roll a parejo, you chop a bunch off each end to get your consistent length. Not with a perfecto. Also, I take the inner part of the leaf, the part which I cut out when I cut the outer crescent for a wrapper, and I use that as the binder on the next cigar. One half leaf of Habano 2000 provides both binder and wrapper.
That said, you do go thru a certain amount of wastage until you find the blend you like. But, what the hell, I go thru the same rate of wastage rolling the dice on premiums I don't like. Once you have settled on a couple blends you dig, roll up a couple score, you are golden.
Here's one of my current faves. I call it the Mataloto Uppowoc Perfecto, Consists of Piloto Cubano and Mata Fina fillers, bound and wrapped in Habano 2000:
This perfecto will smoke for an hour and a half to two hours (I smoke slow). I'll take one of these over store bought any day. I rolled my current batch of 50 last November; so they are in their prime condition now.
One last word: Here in Dull-Aware, we have a lot of damp days. It can be damn hard to get a premium to burn well. They roll them too tight. I hate re-lighting a stick. Always tastes stanky after a re-light. These Uppowoc Perfectos, OTOH, I roll a tad looser, then I let them set for months. And I make surfe to select blends from leaves that will burn a la vela. I can nub one of these bad boys every time. My good friend FirstWarrior gave me a primo nub fork which sees good use.
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Check out this old gem i scored off eBay. Antique cast iron cigar cutter. I plan to use it for tuck cuts. Thing is actually pretty large! It measures about 12" high, 14 1/4" wide and 15" long. He took my obo of $65
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Check out this old gem i scored off eBay. Antique cast iron cigar cutter. I plan to use it for tuck cuts. Thing is actually pretty large! It measures about 12" high, 14 1/4" wide and 15" long. He took my obo of $65
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I think I would find a way to cut at least some portion of my finger off with that thing. Looks cool thou.
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It looks like you could trim up a whole bundle at once!Check out this old gem i scored off eBay. Antique cast iron cigar cutter. I plan to use it for tuck cuts. Thing is actually pretty large! It measures about 12" high, 14 1/4" wide and 15" long. He took my obo of $65
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Side question for the guys using or that have used the WLT kits. Is it me or is there not a lot of wrapper in these?
I understand that I rolled a smaller ring gauge last night, but even using 1/4 leaves to wrap, I am way short and have a large amount of leftover filler and binder. Guess I'll mosey on over and place another order... you know, just to make sure I come out even.
Thanks again for all the tips!
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Thank you! I think this post alone is going to have more influence on my rolling than any thing. Your cigars looked great BTW, better than most in my local brick and mortar.I calculate 75 cents apiece for my standard perfectos. That's not a guess; that's calculated.
Here's how it comes out so thrifty: I roll 5 1/4" 50rg perfectos. That's the main thing. I use a mold, and I make a bunch which will just fit that mold. So there's no loose ends to chop with a tuck cutter. It's all in the feel of the bunch in your fist. A perfecto matches the natural shape of the leaf. This means there is virtually no wasted leaf at all. When you roll a parejo, you chop a bunch off each end to get your consistent length. Not with a perfecto. Also, I take the inner part of the leaf, the part which I cut out when I cut the outer crescent for a wrapper, and I use that as the binder on the next cigar. One half leaf of Habano 2000 provides both binder and wrapper.
That said, you do go thru a certain amount of wastage until you find the blend you like. But, what the hell, I go thru the same rate of wastage rolling the dice on premiums I don't like. Once you have settled on a couple blends you dig, roll up a couple score, you are golden.
Here's one of my current faves. I call it the Mataloto Uppowoc Perfecto, Consists of Piloto Cubano and Mata Fina fillers, bound and wrapped in Habano 2000:
This perfecto will smoke for an hour and a half to two hours (I smoke slow). I'll take one of these over store bought any day. I rolled my current batch of 50 last November; so they are in their prime condition now.
One last word: Here in Dull-Aware, we have a lot of damp days. It can be damn hard to get a premium to burn well. They roll them too tight. I hate re-lighting a stick. Always tastes stanky after a re-light. These Uppowoc Perfectos, OTOH, I roll a tad looser, then I let them set for months. And I make surfe to select blends from leaves that will burn a la vela. I can nub one of these bad boys every time. My good friend FirstWarrior gave me a primo nub fork which sees good use.
Everything they do is by weight I'm guessing. I was "shorted" on some flojo viso in my kit, only enough to make 15 sticks. But then again that's only ~$2/stick, so i ordered more leaf and kept going!
Check out Leaf Only, they have 1/4 pound samples of leaf, including wrapper, just so you can try everything!
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You, sir, are an enabler. Okay, so the lot of you are. I like that very much!Everything they do is by weight I'm guessing. I was "shorted" on some flojo viso in my kit, only enough to make 15 sticks. But then again that's only ~$2/stick, so i ordered more leaf and kept going!
Check out Leaf Only, they have 1/4 pound samples of leaf, including wrapper, just so you can try everything!
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I'm definitely an enabler... but @BrewinHooligan is the biggest enabler of all with this thread!
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i started reading this forum from page 1 last night and have nothing but 
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I can't wait for my orders to come in to start rolling...
I can add this hobby onto my brewing obsession!
@BrewinHooligan: The marshmellow blend sounds fantastic. I feel a trade offer coming!
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! I can't wait for my orders to come in to start rolling...
I can add this hobby onto my brewing obsession!
@BrewinHooligan: The marshmellow blend sounds fantastic. I feel a trade offer coming!
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The constant flow of new folks to this thread is just awesome! 
Given this activity in this thread, any chance we can get a subforum?
Given this activity in this thread, any chance we can get a subforum?
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I contacted someone that Hooli said was an admin, a few days ago. No reply. Hopefully another 30 or so of you will try to contact an admin about it, too.The constant flow of new folks to this thread is just awesome!
Got bored and decided to do something with the leftovers and oddballs. Even got a bit fancy and attempted a barber pole.
Have to say, my respect and admiration for all the factory rollers and you pros around here has skyrocketed exponentially.
Have to say, my respect and admiration for all the factory rollers and you pros around here has skyrocketed exponentially.
Looking real good brother! Keep it up!!Got bored and decided to do something with the leftovers and oddballs. Even got a bit fancy and attempted a barber pole.
Have to say, my respect and admiration for all the factory rollers and you pros around here has skyrocketed exponentially.