I was recently able to buy a box of Fuente Fuente opus x lost city and god of Fire Serie B at about half of their respective retail prices and couldn’t pass up the deal even though I have little to no intention of smoking them in the near future. This brought up the question of whether or not “limited release” non Cuban Cigars have the ability to appreciate in value similarly to some Cuban Cigars... let the arguments begin!
Value appreciation of non-Cuban cigars
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ChuckMejia
The General
Fuentes seem to always be readily available with some patience so I’d say not much of an increase
Cuban's are the forbidden fruit we in the USA have a hard time getting. It is like a Ferrari, or other high dollar vehicle only a few can afford.
Honestly Cuba is still operating like a third world county, but people forget that most of the Cuban's made are sold to retailers, and consumers out of the USA where the trade is not restricted.
My friend recently spent a month down under working in Australlia, and Cuban were for sale at about $50.00 US per stick. He bought home with him 50 sticks.
Are their Cibars made in the Domicitican Repulbic, and Nicagraga almost as good, as or better then Cuban's from many dollar less. I think so, but other who are hard core Cuba lovers will alway say NO.
The guy who brought back 50 was over the other night, he had a Cuban he had to cut off $20.00 of the Cigar to get it to draw. I laught as he chopped out the bad part, and finally got it too draw good enough to to smoke.
Maybe if I was loaded with dollars I would fly to Canada or Mexico every other week and bring back 100 Cubans. But I do not have that amount of money to blow.
JMHO.
Honestly Cuba is still operating like a third world county, but people forget that most of the Cuban's made are sold to retailers, and consumers out of the USA where the trade is not restricted.
My friend recently spent a month down under working in Australlia, and Cuban were for sale at about $50.00 US per stick. He bought home with him 50 sticks.
Are their Cibars made in the Domicitican Repulbic, and Nicagraga almost as good, as or better then Cuban's from many dollar less. I think so, but other who are hard core Cuba lovers will alway say NO.
The guy who brought back 50 was over the other night, he had a Cuban he had to cut off $20.00 of the Cigar to get it to draw. I laught as he chopped out the bad part, and finally got it too draw good enough to to smoke.
Maybe if I was loaded with dollars I would fly to Canada or Mexico every other week and bring back 100 Cubans. But I do not have that amount of money to blow.
JMHO.
IMO, no. They make great gifts to friends though.
I agree. Sounds like they didn't even use lube.
Well we tried both my home made draw tools, neither help, the cut was his last choice.
mjones9630
Who?
I think it all depends on the current market, at least when it comes to NC. One day people will pay many times retail for X then the fad passes, and its on to the next brand/blend/whatever.. Opus and most Fuentes seem to appreciate some, with a few years on them. So I'd imagine you'll easily be able to get your $$ back out of them when you sell.. maybe more.. But an aged $5 CC is worth more than an aged $5 NC.. all day. There's just not a strong market for most NC unless its super premium like Opus.
Just my (noobish) opinion
Nice score too!
Just my (noobish) opinion
Nice score too!
ChuckMejia
The General
Tell him to stop storing Cubans at 72% RH.
And you’re basing prices off of Australia’s insane tobacco tax.
It’s not the same everywhere around the world.
ChuckMejia
The General
I hardly ever buy LEs that come out of Cuba, I don’t think I’d ever drop the cash on a Davidoff LE. Too expensive and usually not something my palate enjoys.
mjones9630
Who?
Always want keep a little bottle with you... just in case there's a "deal" on Cohibas
He had some interesting stories about his trip down under, and how let say their government discourages most smoking. He said the way cigarettes are package with grotesque anti smoking artwork was funny to him.
He was in Austrailla, at the mercy of their cost of their Cuban Cigars, it was a business trip so I sure he figured out how to "write off his expenses".
Not sure how he humidifies his sticks, I personally like 69 - 70 % RH, but where we are at it is Hot & Dry most of the year. 69% - 70% work for me.
StogieNinja
Derek | BoM June 2014
I think Opus X has some potential to increase, but in general aging NCs is not going to get you much of a return.
However half off is a pretty good deal; if you are considering them an investment, sell them at MsRP and take the profit now, there’s not really any reason to wait.
However half off is a pretty good deal; if you are considering them an investment, sell them at MsRP and take the profit now, there’s not really any reason to wait.
The Australian tax rate on tobacco is outrageous. I’ve heard several stories of Australians who have had Americans buy Cubans from a vendor in Australia, and then had it shipped back to them in Australia to avoid the taxes.
California is terrible to Cigar Smokers. They have a TAX of like 73% STICK TAX on the Wholesale. So a $20.00 Stick retail, that wholesales for $10.00 has $7.30 State Tabacco Tax. So now your price is $27.30 Retail.
Than you add 10% - 15% local (city), county, and last state Sales Tax.
Friend who smoke Garcia Garcia and lives in CA, come to AZ every other month. Buy his stick for about $38.00/ Stick in California the price is $54.00/ Stick.
ChuckMejia
The General
Your friend could save some money on gas and just order online