Full Ligero

[Jan Bynens]

Today rolled something out of the box :
#54 : 5.5 leaves ligero rolled in 2 binders.
Half of the leaves bunched with the tip to the head.
The idea is to smoothen the power.
Anyone played with this idea ?

 

[Coincrazed]

Mmmmm. Ligero. Mmmmmmm. So are you rolling a solid Ligero stick?

 

[Gdaddy]

Been doing that for years. Go for it! Using Dom ligero is not as strong as expected but I would be wary of all Nic ligero. Play with a blend.

The double binder might cause a burn/tunnel problem. I always use the thinnest binder I can get away with and then try to find a nice dark ligero leaf to use as the wrapper.
Like this...

 

[Coincrazed]

Do you guys ever think about selling/trading your handmade sticks? I love Ligero.

 

[Castrol]

I don’t have the opportunity to smoke all of my sticks, o roll faster than I can smoke mine. A significant portion of mine go to friends and coworkers. But even through that, I still have a growing collection.

 

[Jan Bynens]

Mmmmm. Ligero. Mmmmmmm. So are you rolling a solid Ligero stick?

I used 50-50 Honduran, Nicaraguan Ligero.
Both strong ligeros !
That's why I bunched half of the leaves the other way around, tip towards the head.
I used 2 rather thick binders to match the burn of the ligeros.

 

[Dominican56]

For a really amped up blend and nicotine is your thing, wrap it in fronto.

 

[Fusion555]

For a really amped up blend and nicotine is your thing, wrap it in fronto.

Yep, those rolls where i used Fronto for the binder and wrapper are very nic heavy

 

[Dominican56]

Man, that much ligero wouldn't be pretty one sided and without balance for me.

 

[Dominican56]

Been doing that for years. Go for it! Using Dom ligero is not as strong as expected but I would be wary of all Nic ligero. Play with a blend.

The double binder might cause a burn/tunnel problem. I always use the thinnest binder I can get away with and then try to find a nice dark ligero leaf to use as the wrapper.
Like this...

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that is really cool!!

Incidentally, I've never had a burn issue with double or even triple binder.

 

[Jan Bynens]

that is really cool!!

Incidentally, I've never had a burn issue with double or even triple binder.

My idea is that a double binder helps when bunching with a lot of strong tobacco.
The cigar burns more even.

 

[Dominican56]

My idea is that a double binder helps when bunching with a lot of strong tobacco.
The cigar burns more even.

Binder is important but proper leaf placement and tightness have more influence on how the stick will burn.
Of course leaf moisture, leaf quality are up there as proper burn influencers, too.

Binder won’t save a poorly constructed cigar

 

[Gdaddy]

Binder is important but proper leaf placement and tightness have more influence on how the stick will burn.
Of course leaf moisture, leaf quality are up there as proper burn influencers, too.

Binder won’t save a poorly constructed cigar

Saltpetre is used as an accelerant in many cigars. (used in fireworks). If a cigar is heavily 'petuned' or needs some help to give that razor sharp burn they use this stuff. I smoked a Camacho 'barrel aged' the other night and, when looking closely, could see little tiny sparkles along the edges. This is indicative of saltpetre. Yet, another age old additive used in many cigars to give that 'perfect burn'.

 

[Dominican56]

Saltpetre is used as an accelerant in many cigars. (used in fireworks). If a cigar is heavily 'petuned' or needs some help to give that razor sharp burn they use this stuff. I smoked a Camacho 'barrel aged' the other night and, when looking closely, could see little tiny sparkles along the edges. This is indicative of saltpetre. Yet, another age old additive used in many cigars to give that 'perfect burn'.

Exactly how would one use it? Mix ratio and such.

 

[Dominican56]

Gdaddy, you’re straying off the farm a bit.
A properly rolled -constructed cigar needs no chemical treatment.

Leaf that burns poorly, perhaps but that’s far from what home-rollers do.

 

[Dominican56]

http://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/1574.pdf

I wouldn’t smoke cigars if I knew this was on them.

 

[Gdaddy]

Exactly how would one use it? Mix ratio and such.

If your cigars burn well there would be no need to use it. There are formulas in old periodicals with mixing ratios if your cigar needed help to burn.

 

[Marc L]

If your cigars burn well there would be no need to use it. There are formulas in old periodicals with mixing ratios if your cigar needed help to burn.

I remember it as being a practice of late. meaning; it has not been used in a while.

 

[Marc L]

was it in this publication?

 

[Gdaddy]

http://nj.gov/health/eoh/rtkweb/documents/fs/1574.pdf

I wouldn’t smoke cigars if I knew this was on them.

Guess what... probably every cigar you've smoked has saltpetre in it. It's in the leaf.

I'm simply letting you know that many cigar manufacturers use this product to improve the burn of the cigar. It's sucked up in the leaf by way of nitrates in fertilizers and makes good burning quality in the leaf.

It's a natural oxidizer. Used in many toothpastes and has been used since the middle ages as a food preservative.

It's bad if you breath in the dust or get the powder in your eye but otherwise it's not some scary cancer causing chemical.