Vuelta Abajo (varietal)

[blisscigarco]

Anyone here tried the Vuelta Abajo ligero from WLT? I haven't seen any reports on it.

A seed company describes it thusly: "Vuelta Abajo is an heirloom oriental variety that has has been grown in the Vuelta region of Cuba for many generations. The leaves have good elasticity making them excellent for use as cigar wrappers. When grown in full sun and in soil with good nitrogen levels, one of the most potent oriental tobaccos known with nicotine levels at 4.6%."

I'm not sure if I've ever used an Oriental before. This seems to be the same thing as "Turkish."

 

[BrewinHooligan]

I asked for a sample from Don and received one in an order a few months back. I haven't rolled anything with it yet though. I'm open to suggestions on what to do with it and am happy to provide feedback

 

[blisscigarco]

I asked for a sample from Don and received one in an order a few months back. I haven't rolled anything with it yet though. I'm open to suggestions on what to do with it and am happy to provide feedback

Okay. Smell it cold, then light a rolled up leaf piece and take a hit from the smoke and tell me what you get. Put a match to an unrolled side and see if it burns on its own, spreading out to the edges. What are your feelings on the smoke and the burn. Thanks.

 

[BrewinHooligan]

Okay. Smell it cold, then light a rolled up leaf piece and take a hit from the smoke and tell me what you get. Put a match to an unrolled side and see if it burns on its own, spreading out to the edges. What are your feelings on the smoke and the burn. Thanks.

I will do this tonight after work and provide feedback

 

[blisscigarco]

I will do this tonight after work and provide feedback

Thanks!

 

[BrewinHooligan]

Pulled from the bag, he only sent two whole leaves and they are very dry. I took a half leaf out and it is very dry so it is hydrating. Initial aroma is straight barnyard which excites me

 

[BrewinHooligan]

Taste: somewhat earthy, pleasant, smooth. Zero spice. Does not seem strong at all but what I smoked wasnt large and it could be deceiving.

The burn test: it is not very burny, but placed right in your bunch wont be an issue.

 

[blisscigarco]

Taste: somewhat earthy, pleasant, smooth. Zero spice. Does not seem strong at all but what I smoked wasnt large and it could be deceiving.

The burn test: it is not very burny, but placed right in your bunch wont be an issue.

Thanks. Sounds mostly negative, but I'll grab a pound.

 

[BrewinHooligan]

Thanks. Sounds mostly negative, but I'll grab a pound.

I really like the flavors, if you are spice adverse this is a good leaf for you. It seems very high quality. I wish it was a little more burny but I think in a blend it will make a great component

 

[blisscigarco]

I really like the flavors, if you are spice adverse this is a good leaf for you. It seems very high quality. I wish it was a little more burny but I think in a blend it will make a great component

I'm the opposite of spice adverse.

 

[BrewinHooligan]

I'm the opposite of spice adverse.

Yeah, me too. I keep looking for a spice bomb and I keep missing

 

[blisscigarco]

Yeah, me too. I keep looking for a spice bomb and I keep missing

I've got some things in my db that consistently bring "pepper."

 

[BrewinHooligan]

I've got some things in my db that consistently bring "pepper."

Shoot me some notes if you dont mind. I have a couple, but not as much as I want. My signature flavors always wind up being more sweet.

 

[webmost]

Is that the VA Criollo Ligero you're talking about?
I got a quarter pound of that and hate it.

OTOH, I'm a seco sicko. I keep trying ligeros and hate them all.

phew

You want mine?

 

[BrewinHooligan]

Is that the VA Criollo Ligero you're talking about?
I got a quarter pound of that and hate it.

OTOH, I'm a seco sicko. I keep trying ligeros and hate them all.

phew

You want mine?

It's not listed as a criollo, vuelta abajo is the varietal but if you have criollo ligero you don't want I use lots of the stuff. I could see myself using this vuelta abajo quite a bit as well

 

[webmost]

It's not listed as a criollo, vuelta abajo is the varietal but if you have criollo ligero you don't want I use lots of the stuff. I could see myself using this vuelta abajo quite a bit as well

I don't say it's listed that way.
But the bag is labelled that way.

& it's dry
Smells sweet tho.

I'll dampen it enough to fold down small right now & shoot it out to you.

 

[blisscigarco]

Shoot me some notes if you dont mind. I have a couple, but not as much as I want. My signature flavors always wind up being more sweet.

What are the couple you have? I'm seeing "pepper" consistently listed in my notes for blends with pcl (lo piloto ligero) (biasing white), esteli ligero, and specifically "black pepper" for the Ometepe ligero.

 

[BrewinHooligan]

What are the couple you have? I'm seeing "pepper" consistently listed in my notes for blends with pcl (lo piloto ligero) (biasing white), esteli ligero, and specifically "black pepper" for the Ometepe ligero.

The piloto ligero I have only gotten baking spice, but that could be my blending. I haven't tried the ometepe yet. The piloto viso with a San Andre's wrapper has given me the most spice of anything yet.

 

[blisscigarco]

The piloto ligero I have only gotten baking spice, but that could be my blending. I haven't tried the ometepe yet. The piloto viso with a San Andre's wrapper has given me the most spice of anything yet.

Is that the WLT PCL? I ask because you also mention the pc viso, and LO doesn't sell a pc viso... I'll roll something like 1 PCL, 1 EsteliL, and 1 Honduran seco today and give it a toke and report back. Would probably need condega to balance it with sweetness. Maybe I'll do one with condega and one without...

 

[BrewinHooligan]

Is that the WLT PCL? I ask because you also mention the pc viso, and LO doesn't sell a pc viso... I'll roll something like 1 PCL, 1 EsteliL, and 1 Honduran seco today and give it a toke and report back. Would probably need condega to balance it with sweetness. Maybe I'll do one with condega and one without...

Yes, wlt. Up until fairly recently all but ec habano seco I ran strictly wlt filler but LO has good stuff I've been sleeping on