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Ramon Allones RE AP Estupendos!

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Tot- 69/100

Filler: Cuba Binder: Cuba Wrapper: Cuba
CA rating: none My rating: 69 (12/5/07) Price: $18.53
Length: 7” Ring gauge: 47 Size: Church Color: Natural


Maybe I had a dud, or maybe I built this cigar up too much in my head before trying it, but this Asian pacific regional release was in my opinion a huge let down. On the outside it fooled me with its nice smooth natural wrapper and its appealing band presentation. The ash was a dark grey color that took a dysmorphic pattern that upon being ashed showed to be coning on the inside. It was however decently sturdy and created a hill-like landscaping burn pattern, and it had to be relit a few times throughout the smoke. The draw was laboring for the first third of the cigar and thus the smoke was scant, but it opened up after I passed the hard spot and the smoke it produced improved a little. This cigar was a light/medium bodied smoke that never got real complex. It had a an earthy core with no apparent underlying hints of anything at all. It was extremely one dimensional and I can only conclude that this is due to its still relatively young age. It was really quite a boring smoke that definitely needs to age some more before being a smokable stick. It finished bitterly and I had to put it down with about a third left to smoke, because it was really unsatisfying. For the price, there are much better smokes out there, and for a special release I definitely expected more. Hopefully these will improve over time and come to represent Ramon Allones better. Or… maybe I just got the runt in the box. Only time will tell.:smokingme

Anybody else had this one???? Id love to know what you think.
 
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I have smoked a few,two were super.one was not so hot I am thinking maybe it hit a sick period,I will tri again in a couple months.Thr Punch Super Robust
from the same year is also an RE for the AP was better IMHO.
 

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Filler: Cuba Binder: Cuba Wrapper: Cuba
CA rating: none My rating: 69 (12/5/07) Price: $18.53
Length: 7” Ring gauge: 47 Size: Church Color: Natural


Maybe I had a dud, or maybe I built this cigar up too much in my head before trying it, but this Asian pacific regional release was in my opinion a huge let down. On the outside it fooled me with its nice smooth natural wrapper and its appealing band presentation. The ash was a dark grey color that took a dysmorphic pattern that upon being ashed showed to be coning on the inside. It was however decently sturdy and created a hill-like landscaping burn pattern, and it had to be relit a few times throughout the smoke. The draw was laboring for the first third of the cigar and thus the smoke was scant, but it opened up after I passed the hard spot and the smoke it produced improved a little. This cigar was a light/medium bodied smoke that never got real complex. It had a an earthy core with no apparent underlying hints of anything at all. It was extremely one dimensional and I can only conclude that this is due to its still relatively young age. It was really quite a boring smoke that definitely needs to age some more before being a smokable stick. It finished bitterly and I had to put it down with about a third left to smoke, because it was really unsatisfying. For the price, there are much better smokes out there, and for a special release I definitely expected more. Hopefully these will improve over time and come to represent Ramon Allones better. Or… maybe I just got the runt in the box. Only time will tell.:smokingme

Anybody else had this one???? Id love to know what you think.
I had one that was plugged so bad, I started chopping till I ended up with a petite robusto that still sucked.

I acquired it through a trade or gift, so I have only had that one sample, but it seems your review mirrors my impressions as well.
 

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Thanks for the review!

Inconsistencies abound in both EL's and Regional Releases.

EL's are kind of like a wrench being thrown into the normal production. They are somewaht foriegn to rollers who are used to producing the same cigars over and over; developing a consistency over time. Plus there are other issues such as aging, wrapper sourcing, etc. that all combine to make the EL's problematic and less consistent.

Same with Regional Releases, but they seem to smoke better...Not sure why.

I would definitely let them rest, and sit out the sick period. Try another in a year, and see how it compares.

FYI, not to sound like a know it all or anything, but that conical shape after ashing is desireable, and indicates good construction.
 
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