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Not that great, they are just OK, I went through a bundle a year ago. I think they are machine made, for the money I would get something different.
 
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I've heard that they can be a little inconsistent in construction, but after a year most will open up and be fantastic. Med/short filler with fantastic core tobacco flavor.
 
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I've heard that they can be a little inconsistent in construction, but after a year most will open up and be fantastic. Med/short filler with fantastic core tobacco flavor.
I'ver heard this and for $70 its probably worth a try.
 

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You might want to see if anyone has one to try first. Just a suggestion based on past experience.
 

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I'ver heard this and for $70 its probably worth a try.
I would rather spend $70 on one good smoke than 1000 crappy ones. Luckily I don't have to. There are plenty awesome smokes that you can get for a little over $70(in Pittsburgh).
 

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I am a fan of the JLP's in general. They are cheap and if you are drunk or something they are perfect. I like to smoke them when I play poker, as they have tons of nicotine and I don't feel like I wasted money if I smoke 2 or 3 in a night. They are also great to give out as a "cuban" without breaking the bank. The construction can be fairly iffy. Make sure to get a 5x5 box not a bundle, the bundles tend to have at least a few split or otherwise messed up cigars in them.
2 bad things about JLP's the flavor can be a bit "soapy" don't ask me why, but many have a sort of soap aftertaste, also the lingering odor is not very nice, so smoke em outside if possible.

I have mostly switched to partagas mille fleur for cheap cigars, but I always have a box of JLP around as well.
 

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The soap taste, as I understand , is that the rollers have to wash their hands constanly and they don't always rinse like they should , they tend to get in a hurry, thus leaving a soap taste on your smokes............
 
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Hmmm...I have heard about the soapy flavour, but I haven't experienced them in piedras personally. They're not a great smoke, they're machine made and they're kinda rough looking, but if you're looking for some cuban tobacco flavour at a great price, these are not a bad place to start. One thing I will say is that they do improve dramatically with time, they don't become a great smoke, but after a year or two they become decent and I think people are sometimes too quick to dismiss them for their fresh characteristics rather than waiting...though I will admit there are much better smokes to wait around for.

At that price point, you should also check out the PL panatelas which are handmade and Fonseca KDT Cadetes, which become great little smokes after a couple years. That being said, I like piedras, not as much as some others, but at that price point, and if you'd like to try a couple, send me a pm.
 

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SOme say white owls are a great place to start if you are a beginner on cigars. I tend to push people towards quality smokes. Same with CC's.
 
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Anyone have anything to add to the Piedra discussion? I'm cigar-bored, if you know what
I mean. Thinking about springing for a box of these to see if I like em enought to add em to my cheap cigar rotation.
 
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