Ar-15

[Mitch]

The "Optics Ready Carbine" is a great choice.

 

[texas_stang]

Look at Charles Daly Defense. You can get a very good weapon that is made out of better part for less than a Busy, plus a 1:7 twist.
Go to ar15.com and look around

 

[Klusterbuck]

So how much can you save assembling an upper an lower????

 

[Tegu]

So how much can you save assembling an upper an lower????

From what I can tell quite a bit, looks like I can get a quality upper and lower for around $650 plus a transfer fee, unless you know someone with an FFL.

 

[Mitch]

Assembling an AR can have its challenges, especially if you are trying to do upgrades or match parts from various makers. Since the barrel is already headspaced, it’s unlikely you can end up with any problems worse than unreliable feeding, ejection or accuracy, but I’d still watch the brass for signs of too much pleasure when you first shoot it.

It’s not rocket science, but it is possible to have problems and if you do, it can cause a lot of aggravation and money to fix it. Some specialized tools are need to do the job well, but you can get by with common tools if you don’t want to buy a barrel wrench and stock wrench, but you may end up with scratches you would not have on a factory gun. Be very careful not to cross thread the barrel nut and do not alter the surface where the rear of the barrel sits flush with the upper receiver, this changes the chamber tolerances and can be bad. All in all, if you haven’t done this and don’t have someone helping you with some experience that you trust, I’d spend the extra money. I worked in a gun store and we made good money fixing the “do it yourself”, “Money Saving” projects of our customers.

If you are looking to save money, buy an assembled lower and look around for a complete upper at a gun shop or show. People often buy or build new uppers for old guns and the old uppers sell cheap used. Just be sure the barrel isn’t shot out by someone who had a fully automatic, you want it to hold a group.

 

[Tegu]

but I’d still watch the brass for signs of too much pleasure when you first shoot it.

So how do you tell if the brass got too much pleasure out of being shot? Tiny little stains?:headroll:

But seriously what are the signs of too much pressure?

 

[Mitch]

So how do you tell if the brass got too much pleasure out of being shot? Tiny little stains?:headroll:

But seriously what are the signs of too much pressure?

Gotta stop doing four things at onece, my spelling sucks when I do.

OK, high pressure will cause the primers to push out and flatten when you fire them. You may see the primers flattened out and pushed up to the edge of the brass, gasses could vent around the primer, the primer could push out or even get a hole in them.

 

[Hot_Sauce]

Check out m4carbine.net

They have a comparison chart in there that is really cool.

I was looking to get an AR 15 either a S&W M&P or a Daly but now I'm going to go DPMS 308 panther instead.

 

[derek]

I have:
1 Stag Arms
1 Rock River
1 Bushmaster Optics Ready Carbine (2 weeks old)

And a couple complete Stag lowers.

Now I need to stock up on Ammo any good online sources?

 

[Mitch]

I have:
1 Stag Arms
1 Rock River
1 Bushmaster Optics Ready Carbine (2 weeks old)

And a couple complete Stag lowers.

Now I need to stock up on Ammo any good online sources?

Depends on the ammo you are looking for.

High Quality and specialty ammo for the military/LE minded try here:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/index.php/cName/rifle-ammo-223-556

Cheap common types of ammo try here:

http://www.midwayusa.com/
http://shop.sportsmansguide.com/
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/default.asp

 

[Tegu]

Thanks everyone, I got the bushmaster ORC, and I am going to build a lefty with the help of a freind. I am getting a Sig Arms Lower, still working on the rest of the peices.



Any scope recomendations, I am thining red dot or holo on the ORC, and maybe the bushnell 3200 for the other one.

 

[Jwrussell]

Aimpoint's an obvious choice.

BEST option, IMNHO, that gives you both close in and ranged capability is the ACOG by trijicon (too many options to name a specific one). But be prepared to pay $800-$1,000 for it.

Oh, and a SuperSniper for the other build if you are thinking of reaching out a bit further. Great scopes, bargain priced.

 

[Tegu]

I decided on the bushmaster 3200 elite fixed 10x mil dot for one and the eotech 512 for the other. A few more little accessories from the gun show next month and I will post some pics.

 

[bballbaby]

i want one!!!

Check that.

I NEED one!!!

The proverbial "shit" is gonna be hittin the fan pretty soon if the gov't keeps tinkering with the economy like it's an old lawnmower.

My official take: Situation Critical