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Fitting, seeing how the worst President in the history of the United States just left office. :eyepoke:
1. James Buchanan

1857-61 (Democratic)

A poll of American historians recently selected Buchanan’s failure to prevent the American Civil War as the greatest single mistake made by any president and our panel agree that he was the worst ever President.

Despite being a northern man, Buchanan had strongly southern principles and he struggled to maintain the fragile peace as the southern states agitated for more freedom. He denied the legal right of states to secede from the Union but at the same time he insisted that the federal government was not legally able to prevent them.

By the time he left the White House his Democratic Party had split in two, seven slave states had rebelled and formed the Confederacy and the country was embroiled in the American Civil War.

“Failed to prevent the near disintegration of the nation.” Gerard Baker, US editor.

2. Franklin Pierce

1853-57 (Democratic)

Pierce was one of the few presidents to be abandoned by his own party after a single term. Pierce became hated for signing the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which was designed as a compromise between northern and southern states but was seen as kowtowing to slave power. Furious opposition to the act spawned the Republican Party.

His credibility was further diminished by the Ostend Manifesto, which advocated the annexation of Cuba, prompting domestic and international scorn when it was leaked.

3. Martin Van Buren

1837-41 (Democratic)

Served as Andrew Jackson’s Vice President and made it clear he wanted a continuation of many of his predecessor’s policies, including the expulsion of Native Americans from their homelands. The draconian Indian Removal Act was passed by Jackson but brutally enforced under Van Buren.

"I found it hard to place high up on the list those who sanctioned the slaughter of Native Americans." Tom Baldwin, Washington bureau chief.

4. William Harrison

1841 (Whig)

Harrison only lasted 32 days as President so our panel struggled to push him very far up the table. He had unsuccessfully stood as the Whig candidate for the White House in both of the previous elections and was eventually sworn in, aged 68, as the oldest President until Ronald Reagan.

5. Richard Nixon

1969-74 (Republican)

Nixon’s dramatic, if controversial, escalation and conclusion of the Vietnam War and successful diplomatic missions to China and the Soviet Union ensured that he won a landslide re-election after his first term - carrying 49 of the 50 states.

Just two years later, he was forced to resign in disgrace after White House tapes suggested he had covered up a break-in at the Democratic headquarters in the Watergate Hotel.

"Cynical manipulation, bringinging the presidency into disrepute and changing the language to the extent that even a whiff of scandal merits the suffix '-gate'." Ben Macintyre, writer-at-large.

6. George W. Bush

2001-2009 (Republican)

A dead heat between the unpopular Bush and the dastardly Richard Nixon.

The September 11 attacks, eight months into his presidency, created a central focus for the Bush administration that lasted into his second term. Bush responded by declaring a “war on terror” and leading military invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan as part of his doctrine of pre-emptive military action. The lengthy operations have plummeted in popularity throughout his time in office.

Domestically, he implemented tax cuts and the “no child left behind” education programme but has been criticised for his failure to deal with the impact of Hurricane Katrina and the collapse of the US financial market.

"Bush Jr. invaded Iraq based on faulty intelligence and then catastrophically mismanaged the war, dragging America's name through the mud." Chris Ayres, Los Angeles correspondent.

7. Herbert Hoover

1929-33 (Republican)

Terrible timing or massive mismanagement? Our panel goes for the later. Hoover came into office at the start of 1929 when the economy was apparently booming. Within months the Wall Street Crash meant he was doomed to years of struggling through the Great Depression.

Hoover’s policy proposals included slum clearance, prison reform, pension increases and tax cuts for low-income families but he failed to enact any of them and was routed at the next election.

"Unwittingly turned the 1929 crash into a global depression which weakened democracies and prepared the ground for the Second World War." Camilla Cavendish, columnist.

8. Warren Harding

1921-23 (Republican)

When Harding died suddenly after two years in office, he was a popular President. The economy had rebounded after the post-war lull and his low tax, small government attitude had many admirers as the US roared into the twenties.

After his death, however, the scandals emerged. Harding may not have profited directly but he seemed to have known that many of the friends he had appointed to the administration were up to no good. Court cases, suicide, bribes, fraud and lengthy jail sentences clouded his reputation in the years after his death.

"Headed one of the most corrupt administrations." Gerard Baker, US editor.

9. James Garfield
1881 (Republican)

The second shortest Presidency after William Harrison’s 32 days but the panel still prefers him to Nixon. Garfield was shot by Charles J. Guiteau, a disgruntled office-seeker who had been overlooked by the President just four months after his inauguration. He died two months after the shooting.

10. Millard Fillmore

1850-53 (Whig)

Fillmore crept into the bottom ten because of his abject failure in solving the slavery crisis.

His short Presidency began after the death of Zachary Taylor during intense negotiations over the future of the slave trade. The Compromise of 1850 eventually resulted in a complicated and contradictory approach to slavery. The trade was abolished in the District of Columbia and in California while, at the same time, the remaining slave holders’ powers were strengthened. Both sides of the debate were left frustrated.


I did not vote for him, but we are a society of now is the best, worst, and/or most of everything.

George Bush was not a good President, but to call him the worst is not fair to him or past times. Thinking that in our life time we have seen the best or worst of anything is very self absorbed and conceited.

If anyone is going to say that something is the best or worst, that person should put it into prospective by saying it is the best or worst in their life time, even that is questionable at best in this case.
 
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Fitting, seeing how the worst President in the history of the United States just left office. :eyepoke:

C'mon Ron, it's time to let all of that hate go and support your new Commander in Chief.
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the honeymoon will soon be over, you will be wishing Bush was back in office.
 
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I've noticed that people who for the last eight years have cheered all the protests against the Bush administration are, now that a new President has been elected, jumping up and down yelling "he deserves your support, he's our President"!

Mark
Bush had 91% of the country's support as of October 2001. While it would have been difficult to maintain those numbers throughout his Presidency, It's his bad decisions and actions since then that has caused most Americans to jeer him as the President.
 
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the honeymoon will soon be over, you will be wishing Bush was back in office.
Ron, you are a funny guy. I haven't laughed as hard as I did after reading your post, in a real long time.

As for the topic, I agree with Jeeper. The CAO America, with it's light and dark wrapper, is a fitting smoke for today.
 
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Bush had 91% of the country's support as of October 2001. While it would have been difficult to maintain those numbers throughout his Presidency, It's his bad decisions and actions since then that has caused most Americans to jeer him as the President.
Like I said, the same ones that were bashing Bush are now saying we have to support Obama because he's president. Congress has lower approval ratings than Bush did, even to his last day, but that isn't talked about.
 

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Bush had 91% of the country's support as of October 2001. While it would have been difficult to maintain those numbers throughout his Presidency, It's his bad decisions and actions since then that has caused most Americans to jeer him as the President.
disagree. people have a short memory. they feared to leave their houses after 9/11.
everyone was betting that another major attack would happen sooner, than later.
bush did an outstanding job of protecting us after 9/11. these days, its like 9/11 never happened. he deserves a lot of credit for keeping us safe. he felt it was his #1 job, and i agree. ask the people who died on 9/11 if they care how much their house is worth.

while the war is unpopular, things are improving, so it really wasnt the war that sunk Bush and the republicans. the damned liberal media is making this war out to be much worse than it really is. Just imagine if Normandy had this kind of media coverage.

this whole Bush bashing deal is about $. your house and portfolio are worth less, and you are pissed.

think i am wrong? Bush senior had awesome ratings after the first gulf war. he gets hit with a recession at the end of his term, and the "do nothing" president clinton gets voted in.
Clinton rides the internet and technolgy wave throughout his presidency. so bottom line is he gets high ratings because america prospered. people dont give a shit that terrorism really blossomed under clintons 8 years.
 
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very nice Ron. yea i was sick of the whole Bush bashing that was goin on. he probley had one of the toughtest presidencys. got to remeber the hurricanes the tsunami 9/11 etc. and it is very true about the liberal media, they do put a HUGE spin on it.
 

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Fitting, seeing how the worst President in the history of the United States just left office. :eyepoke:

While I concede that--for whatever the reasons--GWB had an awful presidency that will likely be looked on poorly by history, I really can't understand how any rational, clearly thinking person could believe he was the worst U.S. President ever.

Top 10 worst? Maybe even top 5? Sure, that's plausable.

But "THE" worst ever? I don't think so. Hell, I'm not even sure he was the worst of his generation. I mean come consider Richard Nixon: Vietnam, Watergate, Resignation. That's the trifecta!

And then wow, James Buchanan. I mean geez, failure to maintain the Union. I'm pretty sure that qualifies him as "THE" worst ever.
 
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I voted for Bush both times and I do not believe he was the worst president ever...not at all. I admit that he made mistakes however I think things look a little different when you get the threat reports every morning, you get a real understanding of how vast the enemy is and how much we are hated just for our way of life. I will support our new president because he is in the office now and will give him the benefit of the doubt before making judgement. But I will say that all the promises made on the campaign trail go away when you sit behind the desk and take your first look at how things really are.
 

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disagree. people have a short memory. they feared to leave their houses after 9/11.
Not me
everyone was betting that another major attack would happen sooner, than later.
Who was? Name me three.
bush did an outstanding job of protecting us after 9/11. these days, its like 9/11 never happened. he deserves a lot of credit for keeping us safe. he felt it was his #1 job, and i agree. ask the people who died on 9/11 if they care how much their house is worth.
Great, 9/11 happens on Bush's watch, and he's great because it doesn't happen again?

while the war is unpopular, things are improving, so it really wasnt the war that sunk Bush and the republicans. the damned liberal media is making this war out to be much worse than it really is. Just imagine if Normandy had this kind of media coverage.
Damned Lib'rals....Imagine...indeed.

this whole Bush bashing deal is about $. your house and portfolio are worth less, and you are pissed.
Not pissed at all, today is an uplifting day for me.

think i am wrong? Bush senior had awesome ratings after the first gulf war. he gets hit with a recession at the end of his term, and the "do nothing" president clinton gets voted in.
Clinton rides the internet and technolgy wave throughout his presidency. so bottom line is he gets high ratings because america prospered. people dont give a shit that terrorism really blossomed under clintons 8 years.
We'll see.
 

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I lit a HdM DC that I've been holding onto for a while.. Very tasty.

Arguing democrat vs. republican is like arguing which shade of sh;t is better.

I don't like what our government/elected officials have been doing for a long time.
But Obama is a charismatic leader & I hope that he is successful in bringing some peace & prosperity.

I support him, but I will be watchful of his actions. It's our duty to hold accountable our elected officials. I didn't see much of any accountability in the previous administration.

I celebrate for this historic election & the opening of a new chapter.

~Independent~
 
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While I concede that--for whatever the reasons--GWB had an awful presidency that will likely be looked on poorly by history, I really can't understand how any rational, clearly thinking person could believe he was the worst U.S. President ever.

Top 10 worst? Maybe even top 5? Sure, that's plausable.

But "THE" worst ever? I don't think so. Hell, I'm not even sure he was the worst of his generation. I mean come consider Richard Nixon: Vietnam, Watergate, Resignation. That's the trifecta!

And then wow, James Buchanan. I mean geez, failure to maintain the Union. I'm pretty sure that qualifies him as "THE" worst ever.
Okay, while I am not old enough to personally judge all of history, I will try to appease the GW Bush fanboys on here and say that he is the worst president in office in my lifetime.

To see my stance on why I felt he was the worst in history, you have to visit this site.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled program & let's lighten things up a bit shall we? :thumbsup:
 
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Okay, while I am not old enough to personally judge all of history, I will try to appease the GW Bush fanboys on here and say that he is the worst president in office in my lifetime.

To see my stance on why I felt he was the worst in history, you have to visit this site.
He probably is the worst in your lifetime, but that's not saying much. I mean, there haven't been all that many, right? LOL Hell there haven't been that many in mine, either.

Oh and BTW I am certainly NOT a GWB fanboy--but I'm also educated enough to know that there were most certainly others who were worse.








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disagree. people have a short memory. they feared to leave their houses after 9/11.
everyone was betting that another major attack would happen sooner, than later.
bush did an outstanding job of protecting us after 9/11. these days, its like 9/11 never happened. he deserves a lot of credit for keeping us safe. he felt it was his #1 job, and i agree. ask the people who died on 9/11 if they care how much their house is worth.

while the war is unpopular, things are improving, so it really wasnt the war that sunk Bush and the republicans. the damned liberal media is making this war out to be much worse than it really is. Just imagine if Normandy had this kind of media coverage.

this whole Bush bashing deal is about $. your house and portfolio are worth less, and you are pissed.

think i am wrong? Bush senior had awesome ratings after the first gulf war. he gets hit with a recession at the end of his term, and the "do nothing" president clinton gets voted in.
Clinton rides the internet and technolgy wave throughout his presidency. so bottom line is he gets high ratings because america prospered. people dont give a shit that terrorism really blossomed under clintons 8 years.
Very nice Ron, well said. We American's have very short memory's. Except what we are reminded ever day on the 5:00 new's. Talk about propaganda. As for Obama we will see i am not hopeful.
 
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disagree. people have a short memory. they feared to leave their houses after 9/11.
everyone was betting that another major attack would happen sooner, than later.
bush did an outstanding job of protecting us after 9/11. these days, its like 9/11 never happened. he deserves a lot of credit for keeping us safe. he felt it was his #1 job, and i agree. ask the people who died on 9/11 if they care how much their house is worth.

while the war is unpopular, things are improving, so it really wasnt the war that sunk Bush and the republicans. the damned liberal media is making this war out to be much worse than it really is. Just imagine if Normandy had this kind of media coverage.

this whole Bush bashing deal is about $. your house and portfolio are worth less, and you are pissed.

think i am wrong? Bush senior had awesome ratings after the first gulf war. he gets hit with a recession at the end of his term, and the "do nothing" president clinton gets voted in.
Clinton rides the internet and technolgy wave throughout his presidency. so bottom line is he gets high ratings because america prospered. people dont give a shit that terrorism really blossomed under clintons 8 years.
Word, I smoked the nastiest piece of shit I could find in BO's honor. I think the guy's a douchebag poser, and we'll see his true colors in the not so distant future-no pun intended.:nono:

Hang on, the ride is just beginning.
 

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Okay, while I am not old enough to personally judge all of history, I will try to appease the GW Bush fanboys on here and say that he is the worst president in office in my lifetime.

To see my stance on why I felt he was the worst in history, you have to visit this site.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled program & let's lighten things up a bit shall we? :thumbsup:
:grinFU:
 
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