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Through the search function:thumbsup: I gathered that Padilla and Pepin split sometime in 2008.

I just bought a Padilla sampler is it safe to assume that they were not be blended by Pepin? Is there a way to tell if they are the Pepin blend? How do the "new" ones compare to the Pepin blends? I wasn't that impressed with the ones that I recently bought.

Thanks in advance for any help or info.

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I can't answer a single one of your questions but I bought a Padilla sampler recently as well and am letting them acclimate til around Christmas before I start breaking them out.
 

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They are no longer made by Pepin and in fact haven't been in well over a year. I understand the 1932 is still the same blend though. If you buy one today, check the box and that will tell you easily if Pepin made it though. There is no difference between the Pepin and Post Pepin bands on the 1932 either.
 
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yep, if you have a box, check for a date stamp on bottom. Also, if its a Padilla Miami, they had a recent band change. Older ones were black and red, but some of those were still released after the split.

Padilla claims these are all the same blends, but none of the recent smokes I've had tasted the "same" to me.
 

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Through the search function:thumbsup: I gathered that Padilla and Pepin split sometime in 2008.

I just bought a Padilla sampler is it safe to assume that they were not be blended by Pepin? Is there a way to tell if they are the Pepin blend? How do the "new" ones compare to the Pepin blends? I wasn't that impressed with the ones that I recently bought.

Thanks in advance for any help or info.

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Great questions, there has been a lot of confusion over this.

First off, Pepin NEVER blended any Padilla cigars. Ernesto Padilla came up with the blends. In the case of a few sticks (the Signature series--1932, 1948, and 1968) and the Miami 8&11, Padilla hired Pepin to roll the sticks at his factory. Last year Padilla's new factory in Miami was nearing completion (and Pepin was getting swamped with all this own stuff, Tatuaje, etc) so Padilla took up production of the cigars himself. So to clarify--Padilla blended them (i.e. created the cigars), Pepin just rolled them.

[I think the distinction between "blended" and "rolled" is important. Who initially created the cigar has more bearing than who rolls it. If Pepin rolled Puros Indios they would still taste like crap.]

All of the cigars are made of the exact same stuff now as they were before, with the exception of the Maimi 8&11 -- they ran out of that wrapper, so they put a new wrapper on it and renamed it simply the Miami.

I love Padilla cigars, and my favorite is the 1932. That cigar is the same now as it was 2 years ago. Some people claim that the Pepin-factory versions are better -- well, they are OLDER, and so a side-by-side comparison is not really possible.

I won't claim that who's rolling the sticks has no bearing on the taste of the cigars, as it certianly can [where are the Hamlet fans?]. Pepin's rollers are some of the finest in the world, to be sure. But I've found the "new" Padilla to be awesome. Ernesto has trained some great rollers himself (they even manage an awesome lancero!) and I honestly have found no change at all in terms of construction.

And just so it's said formally: I think the Padilla Signature 1932 is one of the absolute finest cigars on the planet. Period.
 
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You are right nate...but with talking to Don about it...he said that it is also his tobacco and his seeds. To which he never really lets anyone except family know what the true seed is. That way people like padilla can come and go if they want...but will never really have what he was producing for them. Also...cool fact...no contracts at all. Shake of the hands and a mans word is better than any paper with his name. Thought that was pretty old school and pretty cool!

On that note...I still like the 32s...but the miamis are a totally different stick to me and would love if Mr DPG would produce them again under his lable!
 
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Wow, great info there, thanks Nate. I have really enjoyed most Padillas I have smoked. I too, love the 1932 (even the interim ones rolled in Honduras). The Miami is still really good, IMO, but the Miami lancero is even better - although I haven't tried the new one .... yet.
 

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You are right nate...but with talking to Don about it...he said that it is also his tobacco and his seeds. To which he never really lets anyone except family know what the true seed is. That way people like padilla can come and go if they want...but will never really have what he was producing for them. Also...cool fact...no contracts at all. Shake of the hands and a mans word is better than any paper with his name. Thought that was pretty old school and pretty cool!

On that note...I still like the 32s...but the miamis are a totally different stick to me and would love if Mr DPG would produce them again under his lable!

That is really cool! I love the old-school stuff like that. And I agree on the Miami. The new one is a good cigar certainly, but I think I like the '68 better and it's not even in the same league with the '32 or the old Miami 8&11.
 

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Wow, great info there, thanks Nate. I have really enjoyed most Padillas I have smoked. I too, love the 1932 (even the interim ones rolled in Honduras). The Miami is still really good, IMO, but the Miami lancero is even better - although I haven't tried the new one .... yet.
The new Miamis are different. Still great cigars. The lancero and robusto are the best sizes in the new ones, to me at least.
 

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I mis spoke...u got me Nate...I saw 32 and wrote 32...the 68s are the shiz...32s are also good...but the 68s are delicious!

Cool other notes was that he said he was now running at just over 30% capcity of what his new factory can truly do...with time more lines and brands! And he also mentioned a leaf that he is really excited about...one of the best tasting of his career and will be launched in one cigar from DP and one cigar from Tatuaje...when asked when and what...he just smiled...I said the tubos...but he did not flich...so I am guessing another limited release. Hopefully more news to come in the neat future!
 

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I mis spoke...u got me Nate...I saw 32 and wrote 32...the 68s are the shiz...32s are also good...but the 68s are delicious!

Cool other notes was that he said he was now running at just over 30% capcity of what his new factory can truly do...with time more lines and brands! And he also mentioned a leaf that he is really excited about...one of the best tasting of his career and will be launched in one cigar from DP and one cigar from Tatuaje...when asked when and what...he just smiled...I said the tubos...but he did not flich...so I am guessing another limited release. Hopefully more news to come in the neat future!
Wow, cool! I've heard Pete talk about some exciting things from the new farm. I wonder if it's the Boris wrapper ...
 
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I just came into a couple 1932s thanks to Wayne80. I've really enjoyed the few Padilla's I've had and I'm looking forward to exploring the rest of this line.

Nate - thanks for the education. I did a search looking for the story on the Padilla/Pepin relationship and found it.
 
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Also, from what Pepin says, DPG gives them different batches to try and he makes changes based on their feedback. So, folks like Pete and Ernesto pick the blend, not sure that means they "blended the cigar" per se. Now with Ernesto's new factory, it may be different.
 
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