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This thread has probibly been posted before but I cant find it. So my question is this.....
My wife likes her occasional wine and has been getting me to try it more and more. I am not a big fan of wine but figure if I can pair it well with a cigar then it might not be so bad. Seeing how I really know nothing of wines, can anyone tell me which ones are sweet, dry, or somewhat dry. I believe I would probibly like the sweet wine the most but I don't know what to look for. what are some of the wines you guys like when pairing?? Also once you open the wine do you put it in the fridge or place back on your wine rack?? :dunno:
 
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You can store all wines at 55 degrees, but usually it is best to store red in a little warmer temps (around 60 or so) and whites below (48-52). Never store them in the fridge...it is way to cold in there. It would be best to use a Vinotemp, or other wine fridge to store them. Also, if they have a cork seal, you want to keep the humidity up so the cork doesn't dry/crack. That will ruin the wine if it is being stored for a little while.

Check out this page for some info on dry vs. sweet. Overall, whites will be sweeter than reds.

Port might be a good option. I occasionally drink some tawny port with a cigar. Certain types have a taste that reminds me of maple syrup...not over powering though.
 

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I agree with Jere as it relates to a good Port with cigars, I believe they go together well.

Port is typically a sweet red wine, often served as a dessert wine, and also comes in dry, semi-dry, and white varieties. The white Port, when you can find it, is not as sweet as the red.

Dessert wines and Ice wine, both sweeter wines, go well after dinner with a good cigar.
 

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Never store them in the fridge...it is way to cold in there.

Port might be a good option. I occasionally drink some tawny port with a cigar. Certain types have a taste that reminds me of maple syrup...not over powering though.
You provided a great explanation and answer, but I think for the occasional wine drinker, storing white wine in their fridge is just fine. They are not in it for storing wine for a couple years but will be drinking it within a few weeks. But you are absolutely correct if you want to store the wine for any period of time you are better off using a dedicated wine fridge... but then where would the cigars go?!? LOL

I also think your Port idea is right on. I personally do not drink any wine with cigars but if I did, it would be Port.
 
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Being someone who prefers dry wines, I've found that the best pairings for me are sticks with a slightly spicy, somewhat floral, cocoa-coffee-fruity profile (like some Illusiones and Tats) with a good Cabernet or some of the headier stuff from the Bourdeaux region. I would imagine a good Chardonnay goes well with those sticks, too, though I don't drink white wine all that much.

A good intro to sweeter, light white wines, incidentally, is Pinot Grigio. There's some good values out there, so my advice is to experiment on some of the $5 - $10 bottles and see which ones you like the best with your favorite sticks.
 

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I am a HUGE fan of wine lately. Something about wine and winter go great together. Plus a ice cold beer just does not have the same ring in my ear when it is 3 degrees outside. I know it is a little stronger, but I like a good Pinot Noir with a cigar. Even a good Merlot is good time to time. We have a nice little cigar friendly wine bar over by my house. They actually sell Tats and other cigar brands and every time I go they pair the wine with the cigar. Pretty cool experience if you have one by you! Try it out!
 
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I'd definitely like to see what others have to say here and even get some specific recommendations of affordable wines to try out.

I've ventured into port a bit lately and one you can pick up at most grocery stores that is very good is the Fonseca Bin 27. It ballparks about $18.00 here and we even catch it on sale occasionally at $15.00. I've also tried Taylor Fladgate 10 and 20 year at a cigar bar and both of those were very good, although I'm not sure on bottle pricing.

I've also tried some port from Trader Joe's, Porto Morgado, it was cheap @ $6.99/ bottle but I thought with the reputation of the Two Buck Chuck wines I'd try it out, strong alcohol taste and not very good IMO.
 

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White Zinfandel is sweet and goes well with an after dinner cigar. Another really sweet wine is Barefoot Moscato - a white wine that's a tad sweeter than the Zinfandel. Both can be had between $6-$8. Don't have any experience with port wines. As an alternative, I like sweet tea with a cigar! :cbig:
 
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What a coincidence!! Same here. I went to the state store yesterdayandgrabbed my usual glenlivet. Figured while I was there I would grab a bottle of wine while there. Been wanting to get into the wine thing as I hear alot about it. I grabbed something red that said 2005 on it!! Anyway, we'll see how it works out.

I was reading a little about wine online this morning and did see where several people said to store open bottles in the fridge to prevent it from going bad. They said you should drink an open bottle within a week if possible. It will eventually go bad but the fridge slows the process down.

Whentou want to drink it pour what you want and let it get room temp again.

Not sure if that's the way but it sounds good.
Or the simpler way.... Drink the whole bottle at once!!
 
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You pretty much want to drink an open red within a day or 2 of opening. Even using some of the devices available to slow the process doesn't really help too much. After 2 days I just use it as a cooking wine. My wife likes a Riesling, I cannot stand it, way too sweet for me. I usually have a fuller red, Cab, and my favs are actually mostly Pinot Noirs from Russian River area. I also will mix in some Malbecs. Wine is like cigars to me, you will drink many until you find your go to wine and them sample the rest after that to find other special occasions wines. My personal fav is a Merry Edwards Pinot Noir.
 
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Always like port with a cigar. This has given me some ideas in pairing something different with my smoke.
 

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Being someone who prefers dry wines, I've found that the best pairings for me are sticks with a slightly spicy, somewhat floral, cocoa-coffee-fruity profile (like some Illusiones and Tats) with a good Cabernet or some of the headier stuff from the Bourdeaux region. I would imagine a good Chardonnay goes well with those sticks, too, though I don't drink white wine all that much.
Spicy and fruity....that's a Shiraz/Syrah. My favorite. Port wise, I haven't gone the vintage route yet, but I have Taylor Fladgate 20 YO Tawny, Sandeman 20 YO Tawny, Penfolds Bluestone and a bottle of Sandeman's Founder's Reserve. The last one is unlike the others. Doesn't have that caramel/maple syrup taste, more fruity.
 
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You can store all wines at 55 degrees, but usually it is best to store red in a little warmer temps (around 60 or so) and whites below (48-52). Never store them in the fridge...it is way to cold in there. It would be best to use a Vinotemp, or other wine fridge to store them. Also, if they have a cork seal, you want to keep the humidity up so the cork doesn't dry/crack. That will ruin the wine if it is being stored for a little while.
I don't necessarily agree with these statements.

Many treat wine like it's some sort of fragile substance, but over the years I've found it's quite resilient. You don't need to worry about a temperature-controlled storage unless you are going to buy expensive bottles and age them for years.

The vast majority of average wine drinkers buy a case or less at a time and consume them within a few weeks. Keeping them out of direct sun and at room temp (68F) or a bit cooler is fine. Also, I wouldn't worry about drying out the cork. Again, this is only a concern for people aging wine for the very long term ... and is easily solved for the short term by just stacking the bottles horizontally.

Storing in the fridge is OK for the very short term ... like several days. And only do this with unopened bottles. For me the issue is not temperature but odor/taste transfer from other foods. Most don't want wine tasting like onions and tacos.

As far as sweet vs. dry, there are no hard and fast rules. There are lots of variations, even within whites and reds. Plus all of us have different palates and sensitivities to sweet flavors. Your best bet is to just try a wide variety and see what you like. Go visit all the wineries in your area and taste what they make.

Personally I don't drink wine while smoking cigars. For me the combination seems to detract from the overall enjoyment of the separate flavors. I do occasionally drink port with cigars - but port is more in the liqueur category.

You pretty much want to drink an open red within a day or 2 of opening. Even using some of the devices available to slow the process doesn't really help too much.
I don't generally agree with this either. I've had young red wines that actually took 24-48 hrs to fully "open up". (Think of this like a rose that takes a couple of days to fully blossom. Wine flavors change the longer they are exposed to air. ) I've also found some wines can taste perfectly fine more than a week after opening. Again, this is more a personal taste thing than a generalization.

Here's an interesting site for you Ciggy ... http://michiganbythebottle.typepad.com/my-blog/
 
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My wife likes a good central valley Pinot while I smoke my cigar......elsewhere.
 

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Again thanks for the help guys. My wife brought home a bottle of Rosemount Shiraz for me to try. (I don't know if it's a good choice or not) You have all givin me some good ideas so hopefully one or more of them will be a nice compliment in paring up. Again thank you very much and post if you have any more suggestions.
Also what is your best capping tool once you open the bottle???
 
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