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What do you think of the Smith&Wesson M&P 9mm handgun?
Not necessarily as CCW, but just as a good all around handgun for shooting and home protection.
 

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i say shoot it first. i'm not familiar with the m&p, i have a sigma .40 adn the grip on it sucks. my palm actually hurts after i shoot a few rounds becasue of the grip.

and IMO, the only real way to tell if your'e gonna like a gun is to shoot it first.

but, i have heard much better things about the m&p series
 

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and IMO, the only real way to tell if your'e gonna like a gun is to shoot it first.

but, i have heard much better things about the m&p series
This. It has a great reputation, but everyone is different in what they prefer. Should be fairly easy to find one to shoot, they are popular and likely to be rental fodder at the local ranges.
 

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I have the 5" pro version and LOVE it. Very nice gun. However, there is a design flaw involving the barrel & lock time that destroys accuracy past ~25 yards if you plan on shooting 147gr or heavier rounds.
 

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M&P is a fantastic gun. But with that you must figure out if it is a gun for you. Go to a range and shoot. You MUST test fire it to know if it will work for you. For what you are looking for the M&P 9, Glock 19(or similar), and Springfield XDM-9 all would be perfect. All are amazing guns, its just which one you feel most comfortable to shoot. Personally I like the XDM-9 best for a 9mm concealed, and the XD-9(previous version with little changes like grip and release) can be purchased for even cheaper.
 
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I have the 5" pro version and LOVE it. Very nice gun. However, there is a design flaw involving the barrel & lock time that destroys accuracy past ~25 yards if you plan on shooting 147gr or heavier rounds.
Does the 4.25" version have the same problem?
 
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The gun is solid with great ergonomics. The one problem is the long mushy trigger and it's invisible reset. With practice you can learn to shoot the weapon as is and manage the trigger or modify the trigger with a couple drop-in parts. Either way the M&P is a solid well made handgun.
 

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Does the 4.25" version have the same problem?
Yep. All the 9mm versions of it. It involves barrel material (stainless steel), twist rate, and lock time. For me, it's a non-issue. I never shoot 147 grain rounds (or heavier).

Actually, I'm not positive on the compact versions. But, I believe they are in the same boat as well. Any of the full size 9s will for sure have the same design flaw.
 
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First let me say I LOVE how the M&P shoots. It's very smooth, easy to find the (invisible) reset, it's accurate as all hell... I almost bought one until...

I did my due diligence and found out they don't hold up after about 25,000 rounds. That's likely not an issue for most buyers, so if you're just getting one for weekend plinking a few times a year + home defense, then you're good as gold. But I shoot a bit more, and didn't need something that wasn't going to hold up. If you'd describe your shooting habits as being similar to mine, then what I've found is that pretty much only Glock and Springfield XDm will do the trick (assuming you're looking for a plastic gun). Even in these categories, the regular XD series has come to show some significant issues, and the smaller frame Glocks seem to have issues with high pressure rounds like 357 Sig. Again, I'm looking at this from a 25k+ point of view... not from a sock drawer point of view.

Anyway, I hope that helps, good luck, and have a great time!
 

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First let me say I LOVE how the M&P shoots. It's very smooth, easy to find the (invisible) reset, it's accurate as all hell... I almost bought one until...

I did my due diligence and found out they don't hold up after about 25,000 rounds. That's likely not an issue for most buyers, so if you're just getting one for weekend plinking a few times a year + home defense, then you're good as gold. But I shoot a bit more, and didn't need something that wasn't going to hold up. If you'd describe your shooting habits as being similar to mine, then what I've found is that pretty much only Glock and Springfield XDm will do the trick (assuming you're looking for a plastic gun). Even in these categories, the regular XD series has come to show some significant issues, and the smaller frame Glocks seem to have issues with high pressure rounds like 357 Sig. Again, I'm looking at this from a 25k+ point of view... not from a sock drawer point of view.

Anyway, I hope that helps, good luck, and have a great time!
What specifically is showing that much wear after 25k rounds?
I know a number of people who put nearly 50k rounds through their m&ps each year. I haven't had mine long enough to put that many down the pipe, but it's already at around 4k and showing no signs of wear.
 
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What specifically is showing that much wear after 25k rounds?
I know a number of people who put nearly 50k rounds through their m&ps each year. I haven't had mine long enough to put that many down the pipe, but it's already at around 4k and showing no signs of wear.
Oh man, I'm over a year past that research. I couldn't find you the links quickly. I'll have to ask you to do your own research bro (please don't take that in a negative way, I'm just saying I don't have time to go research all that again). Think of my comments as the condensed version.

That said, I recall that several law enforcement agencies that selected the M&P have had to get rid of them because their armorer could not keep up with all the issues. It's a real shame. When I first saw the M&P and shot it, I really was hopeful that this American made shooter could bump the crowns off their Austrian and Croatian competitors. But alas, not yet. I'll hope to see them get it figured out sooner than later.

Cheers guys!
 
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I have had both good and bad experiences with the M&P line. unfortunately the bad experience was the a 9mm, the trigger was complete junk! i also got a few FTE from the gun. My good experience was with a 45ACP. That gun was a complete 180 from its 9mm brother. Perhaps it was just THAT gun that made the 9mm feel like a hi-point, since i have not gone back to give the 9mm a second chance
 
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I have the 9c as my CC gun. I love it, shoots great and have no problems in the 3-4k rounds put through it.

I haven't heard the horror stories but I haven't looked overly hard. I would assume if they're widespread they'd be easy to google and find though. Not much of an issue to me though.

A SWAT instructor I know absolutely loves the M&P as well and has never mentioned issues with the trigger to me. So I think it's all relative. I think the trigger could use a bit smoothing out, but I'm so used to it that I fail to notice anything wrong with it now.
 
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