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Dope-Smoking, Menstruating Monkey Study Got $3.6 Million in Tax Dollars (Golden Hookah)
Thursday, June 09, 2011
By Christopher Neefus
(CNSNews.com) - The National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA), a division of the federal government’s National Institutes of Health (NIH), has spent $3,634,807 over the past decade funding research that involves getting monkeys to smoke and drink drugs such as PCP, methamphetamine (METH), heroin, and cocaine and then studying their behavior, including during different phases of the female monkeys’ menstrual cycles.

The study also uses “interventions” as “treatment models” for monkeys who have been taught to use drugs.

Precursor research on drug-using monkeys, also funded by NIDA, discovered that after smoking cocaine monkeys exhibited “dilated pupils and slightly agitated, hyperactive behavior”—which helped researchers conclude that the “physiological effects” of cocaine on monkeys “were similar to those reported in studies of human subjects.”

In yet another federally funded study of drug-taking monkeys, the monkeys were sometimes given “trail mix” after “their daily experimental sessions.”

Back in 2001, the NIH gave $328,364 to a project called “A Primate Model of Drug Abuse: Intervention Strategies.” The principal investigator for the project was Dr. Marilyn E. Carroll, a professor in the department of psychiatry at the University of Minnesota.

The description of the grant published by NIH said: “Goals of the proposed research are to use a rhesus monkey model of drug abuse, to study factors affecting vulnerability to drug abuse and to evaluate behavioral and pharmacological treatment interventions. Routes of administration that have been developed in this laboratory will include oral drug self-administration and smoking.”

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Wow. Let's see, how many unemployed or under employed folks do we have out there and this is being funded. I'm certain that the findings may have an impact on society in some form or another but, in times like these, is this the best use of our resources both short and long term? I doubt it.


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So the nation has spent 3.6 Million over the past DECADE (360,000 a year) to study intervention techniques on primates so that we can better get junkies off drugs? What's the problem? Remember those junkies are the ones that are part of jail population, and/or occupying homeless shelters, as well as committing crimes in order to fund their addictions. Society as a whole will be improved over the long term, and national spending is supposed to help keep the economy rolling. I have no qualms with this. It is cash better spent than all the money that got blown by the nation to bailout Goldman Sachs.
 

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The war on drugs, especially Marijuana is a colossal waste of money. FShut down the border and the drug supply will at lease be moved to our land and economy.
 

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The war on drugs, especially Marijuana is a colossal waste of money. FShut down the border and the drug supply will at lease be moved to our land and economy.

A "closed" boarder would cost as much to build, maintain, and man as the "war on drugs." Some of my work at school involves change-detection in the desert with satellite imagery to identify where new smuggling routes are being used... that is one big mother-f'in desert out there. You also have to increase the security at the ports, too. I knew someone in a few years back who's father was in federal prison on a smuggling conviction. His operation was picking up cargo off the coast on his "fishing boat" and then sailing it into ports up and down the California coast.
 

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So the nation has spent 3.6 Million over the past DECADE (360,000 a year) to study intervention techniques on primates so that we can better get junkies off drugs? What's the problem? Remember those junkies are the ones that are part of jail population, and/or occupying homeless shelters, as well as committing crimes in order to fund their addictions. Society as a whole will be improved over the long term, and national spending is supposed to help keep the economy rolling. I have no qualms with this. It is cash better spent than all the money that got blown by the nation to bailout Goldman Sachs.
Yeah...but is there any indication anything they learned has actually made any difference in the number of junkies getting clean???

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I'm a little surprised people are reacting negatively to this.

We're talking about $3.5M over ten years to developer a better understanding of drug abuse. We threw $15B into the drug war last year alone, and we still have a massive drug problem.

Studies like this employ people and hope to generate insights applicable to real world problems.

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I know the title was a joke, but why didn't they study real junkies? Seems like the feedback would be better, more applicable, and they could try to help some people.

Ethical conflict with giving people drugs or something?
 
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I know the title was a joke, but why didn't they study real junkies? Seems like the feedback would be better, more applicable, and they could try to help some people.

Ethical conflict with giving people drugs or something?
Without knowing a whole lot about this particular set of studies I'd assume it came down to some combination of ethics and observability. The monkeys live in the lab. Real-life junkies tend to wander about, making it much more difficult to control the experimental factors.

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Yeah...but is there any indication anything they learned has actually made any difference in the number of junkies getting clean???

Dan
Academia does not get measured on end-results, but how much we learn about a situation/phenomenon... that's my point, we have to weigh the money spent against what these scientists are learning and the methodologies they are developing, not how many junkies they are treating this very moment. This is the "R&D" phase; there is no product to sell, not YET anyway.

And Chaz is right, this is much less costly than our ever-lasting war on drugs; research is what will help our society advance.
 
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