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About a week ago, we were in the middle of a heat wave here on the East Coast, and I was thinking about ordering some cigars from Florida and wondering what temperatures they might experience during shipment. I did a little googling, but couldn't come up with anything interesting.

As I sat there in front of my computer, I said to myself, "Self, you have a nifty high-precision temperature logger; why don't you just put it into a box and ship it to your buddy in Florida and back and see what temps it actually experiences?"

So I did (thanks, swingerofbirches!), and here are the results:



[EDIT: I neglected to mention that the carrier was USPS (Priority Mail)]

The temperature was in a 28-degree range, with a maximum of 101.3 - better than I was expecting.

Of course, this is not enough to be statistically significant, but it does suggest that the temps a package experiences are pretty comparable to the ambient temps in the areas through which it travels. I'd had visions of the temps inside a parked car on a hot, sunny day (like 140F), but, now that I think about it, an opaque, moving vehicle would have none of that green-house effect and would have the equivalent of a very strong wind, tending to move it toward temperature equilibrium with the surrounding air.

I will say that I've had lots of cigars shipped to me in the middle of summer and have not been able to correlate that with any problems smoking the sticks (I always rest cigars at least a month after shipping, and, most of the time, a year or more). Also, look at the graph and imagine the line going all the way down to zero. That's what happens when you freeze your sticks (which I highly recommend), and, in comparison, the temp swings during shipping look like small potatoes.

Maybe some of you have worked in shipping or trucking and can give us some more insight into this?

This brought to mind a similar experiment I'd read about, where people shipped a three-axis accelerometer, to measure shock, and some quick googling turned it up here. If you don't have time to click through that link, suffice it to say that you should expect any package you ship to be dropped multiple times.

One amusing (and disgusting) thing my googling turned up is the gazillion youtube videos of carriers abusing packages. For your entertainment, here a few: [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1mhz1-biEY"]FedEx Ground[/ame], [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw-zxJI1YOo&feature=related"]FedEx Ground[/ame], [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB686oOET4k&feature=related"]UPS[/ame], [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgAq_KnDIPc&feature=related"]UPS[/ame].
 
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Awesome test this is pretty interesting, I too have never had a problem with cigars mailed in the summer and will let them rest a minimum of 2 weeks.
 

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Very interesting indeed. I live in the Central Valley in California and I worry about Beetles hatching in my mailbox in the summer. Especially if they arrive when we are gone for a couple of days.

I keep hearing about freezing and having only done it once, I am considering it.

Thanks for the informative links too.


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Bet that's how my first edgestar arrived glass free haha
Yeah, I've also had an Edgestar damaged in shipment, but mine was an "open box" unit that was packed with the flimsiest of padding. These videos indicate that anything we ship needs to be packed to go through a war...
 

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When I get cigars shipped to work, our assistant brings the boxes in right from the USPS guy, and I can always smell them cooking when I open them up. I hate that smell. :-(

But as other folks have said, you just rest them a while to let them come back to peak.
 

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I was always curious about the temp swings... thanks for the test and the charts!! You don't know how much better I feel now that I am not scratching my head. ("Knowledge is Power" - I forget who said this.)
 
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Thanks for the info. Very interesting. I'm not exactly a patient person so a lot of times I smoke a new stick just a couple of days after it comes in. I wonder what the stats of this same test would look like in the other seasons....
 
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GI Joe said it, wait... he said "Knowing is half the battle" :hysterica
Oh duh... that's what I was thinking of!

Misquoting G.I. Joe? Now I know I am getting old... the memory is starting to go soft. That's depressing. 9:45am - is it too early for a second helping of scotch?
 

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I was always curious about the temp swings... thanks for the test and the charts!! You don't know how much better I feel now that I am not scratching my head. ("Knowledge is Power" - I forget who said this.)
Happy to help, but don't forget this is only one trial. It's very possible that, if you repeated the experiment, you'd find some cases that are more extreme.

I'm guessing that the worst case would be a truck sitting all day in an asphalt parking lot on a hot, sunny day. I think you'd need to be an industry insider to know if that ever happens and how often it happens.
 

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... I'm not exactly a patient person so a lot of times I smoke a new stick just a couple of days after it comes in. ...
Check out this post by Steve Saka, of Drew Estate. The capsule summary is this excerpt:

... So I always recommend letting the cigars rest for at least week off the truck when the weather is hot. A month is even better. ...
 

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Thanks for posting this. I've always wondered the same thing even though (so far) I've never had any problems. However sitting in a hot mail box all day still bugs the hell out of me.
On a side note...Those carriers get paid good money to deliver packages. I hope these guys were repremanded in some way. I've been told by UPS and USPS marking fragile on packages doesn't mean they'll be handled any differently than any other package...scary!
 
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