Adventures in home rolling

[blisscigarco]

I offer this for laughs, since it's useless info. @keithjjones was asking about LO Cam filler/binder, and LO MSA wrapper. So I was reading various entries in my spreadsheet for the MSA wrapper and the only LO Cam I've tried, which is the wrapper. And I found these smoking notes for a couple blends.

A blend with LO MSA wrapper:
2/20/16 PERFECTION. Cocoa, leather, and tobacco. Nubbed it.
2/28/16 Bad. Bad flavor. Burnt tire and hay.
3/6/16 Sucked. Grassy. Good burn tho. Chucked it.
4/21/16 Yuck.

A blend with LO Cameroon wrapper:
7/17/15 Decent.
7/31/15 Tasted like crap, hated it. I reckon I should stay off the Cameroon
8/29/15 Can't say I'm thrilled with the flavor. It's pretty bad, but smokeable with a nice cold class of champagne to cut through the nasty.
9/15 Super lovely!

 

[luckyace12]

I offer this for laughs, since it's useless info. @keithjjones was asking about LO Cam filler/binder, and LO MSA wrapper. So I was reading various entries in my spreadsheet for the MSA wrapper and the only LO Cam I've tried, which is the wrapper. And I found these smoking notes for a couple blends.

A blend with LO MSA wrapper:
2/20/16 PERFECTION. Cocoa, leather, and tobacco. Nubbed it.
2/28/16 Bad. Bad flavor. Burnt tire and hay.
3/6/16 Sucked. Grassy. Good burn tho. Chucked it.
4/21/16 Yuck.

A blend with LO Cameroon wrapper:
7/17/15 Decent.
7/31/15 Tasted like crap, hated it. I reckon I should stay off the Cameroon
8/29/15 Can't say I'm thrilled with the flavor. It's pretty bad, but smokeable with a nice cold class of champagne to cut through the nasty.
9/16 Super lovely!

Jekyll and Hyde much?

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[keithjjones]

I offer this for laughs, since it's useless info. @keithjjones was asking about LO Cam filler/binder, and LO MSA wrapper. So I was reading various entries in my spreadsheet for the MSA wrapper and the only LO Cam I've tried, which is the wrapper. And I found these smoking notes for a couple blends.

A blend with LO MSA wrapper:
2/20/16 PERFECTION. Cocoa, leather, and tobacco. Nubbed it.
2/28/16 Bad. Bad flavor. Burnt tire and hay.
3/6/16 Sucked. Grassy. Good burn tho. Chucked it.
4/21/16 Yuck.

A blend with LO Cameroon wrapper:
7/17/15 Decent.
7/31/15 Tasted like crap, hated it. I reckon I should stay off the Cameroon
8/29/15 Can't say I'm thrilled with the flavor. It's pretty bad, but smokeable with a nice cold class of champagne to cut through the nasty.
9/16 Super lovely!

Lol, I'm the same way. I'm having a wlt Corojo seco stick right now and it's pretty good.

Now if I can only triple cap without it looking like a three stooges haircut.

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[Jim D]

I offer this for laughs, since it's useless info. @keithjjones was asking about LO Cam filler/binder, and LO MSA wrapper. So I was reading various entries in my spreadsheet for the MSA wrapper and the only LO Cam I've tried, which is the wrapper. And I found these smoking notes for a couple blends.

A blend with LO MSA wrapper:
2/20/16 PERFECTION. Cocoa, leather, and tobacco. Nubbed it.
2/28/16 Bad. Bad flavor. Burnt tire and hay.
3/6/16 Sucked. Grassy. Good burn tho. Chucked it.
4/21/16 Yuck.

A blend with LO Cameroon wrapper:
7/17/15 Decent.
7/31/15 Tasted like crap, hated it. I reckon I should stay off the Cameroon
8/29/15 Can't say I'm thrilled with the flavor. It's pretty bad, but smokeable with a nice cold class of champagne to cut through the nasty.
9/15 Super lovely!

I have felt this way about my sticks for a while. Smoked ROTT or within 3 days, they're ok. After that they will suck until they're 3 months old or older. Some are still "improving/suckling less" after 4 months rest...
Of course some may just suck forever.

Then as y'all have noted, after I found a blend I liked after the rest, the replacement leaf doesn't look anything like the original batch used so who knows, maybe we'll always be making new blends.

 

[Gdaddy]

It's possible the variation in 'like or dislike' comes from a variation in the palate of the smoker. What you ate, the PH of your palate or maybe a new tooth paste. Maybe it's not always the cigar that's creating the problem.

 

[Gdaddy]

 

[Jim D]

Here's another question for you gents:
After rolling a cigar, we all agree it needs a bit of rest. Is that because we misted the leaves and that starts some reaction between the leaves?
I'm sure many of us are rolling with leaf we've stored for more than 3, 4, or 5 months already. But they are stored separated by the bags. This seems to have no effect on the rest time after rolling.

 

[blisscigarco]

Here's another question for you gents:
After rolling a cigar, we all agree it needs a bit of rest. Is that because we misted the leaves and that starts some reaction between the leaves?
I'm sure many of us are rolling with leaf we've stored for more than 3, 4, or 5 months already. But they are stored separated by the bags. This seems to have no effect on the rest time after rolling.

True. No matter how old you are, you get married, shit gonna change.

 

[Marc L]

After rolling a cigar, we all agree it needs a bit of rest. Is that because we misted the leaves and that starts some reaction between the leaves?

A higher case will promote a higher degree of marrying. let them dry some before wrapper application. being handed a fresh rolled off a table, they’ll say, “smoke it in the next two hours or, after two weeks not in between. and don’t ask why. “ and that’s why. There will be optimal times to smoke them and not so optimal times.

I'm sure many of us are rolling with leaf we've stored for more than 3, 4, or 5 months already. But they are stored separated by the bags. This seems to have no effect on the rest time after rolling.

Not the same thing as blend marrying. The leaf we get has been aged in most cases for years. I like to think that when I case a blend in the same container before I roll it a day or two before hand it has an effect in that marrying.

 

[keithjjones]

Some of the best sticks I've made lately have been my sort filler scraps.

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[Mikenice81]

A higher case will promote a higher degree of marrying. let them dry some before wrapper application. being handed a fresh rolled off a table, they’ll say, “smoke it in the next two hours or, after two weeks not in between. and don’t ask why. “ and that’s why. There will be optimal times to smoke them and not so optimal times.

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I've been told "in the next two minutes, in two weeks, or give it two months."

 

[Marc L]

I've been told "in the next two minutes, in two weeks, or give it two months."

I trust almost anyone elses memory over my own. thanks for the correction.

 

[webmost]

I trust almost anyone elses memory over my own. thanks for the correction.

Yeah don't forget --- you promised to send me the deed to your house. Just a friendly reminder.

 

[Dominican56]

This is on my list to start this week.
I'm thinking of a kit to start with


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[Marc L]

This is on my list to start this week.
I'm thinking of a kit to start with


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That is popular. welcome and poke around a little. this is the hot spot to be.

 

[Hopduro]

That is popular. welcome and poke around a little. this is the hot spot to be.

Yeah man, we are the cool kids

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[Jan Bynens]

Go for it Dominican.. !!!

 

[Dominican56]

Next month. I spent my budget on CCs for the month.


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[Marc L]

Sounds good.

 

[Jim D]

View attachment 80034 So today I smoked one straight from my dry box and it stayed lit , no struggles. It did burn funny though, what do you guys make of this?

So after 15 months in the humidor, the broadleaf bound and wrapped stogies burn, even if a bit wonky still.
Problem today is that an inch into it, my kids now want dinner!
First world problems, I tell you what. I'm glad that's all I can complain about today!