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ohpus said:
Thebigo!!!!! Good thing you'r a carnie!!! or else I would think you are just freeky man!!! LOL Can you milk a cat?
"You can milk anything that has nipples" - Gaylord Fokker
 

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Promethius said:
"You can milk anything that has nipples" - Gaylord Fokker
LMAO!!! That was wonderful. But cats have small nipples so you need small hands....wait...just thought of something. Carnie's have small hands...oh no.
 

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ohpus said:
Thebigo!!!!! Good thing you'r a carnie!!! or else I would think you are just freeky man!!! LOL Can you milk a cat?
Now think to yourself...freeky as relative to who/what? Compared to the rest of my family I am quite normal, and that's scary. Here's a good idea of how my family is, not that anyone cares. It is often said that if you bring your girlfriend or fiance to a family vacation then she will be with you the rest of your life or not with you in 3 days.

PS-these stories keep you entertained and you'll never meet another as interesting as me.
 
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So the question still stands, do I have to worry about the essential oils? Is that why you double bag, in order to keep the freezer from drying out the sticks? Just a little clarification would be good. I have a chest freezer down stairs and will happily freeze my entire stock if it truly adds that layer of protection. Please advise. :scratchhe
 

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Promethius said:
So the question still stands, do I have to worry about the essential oils? Is that why you double bag, in order to keep the freezer from drying out the sticks? Just a little clarification would be good. I have a chest freezer down stairs and will happily freeze my entire stock if it truly adds that layer of protection. Please advise. :scratchhe
No you do not have to worry about essential oils, yes that's why you double bag, it offers protection.

There are vendors in Europe that freeze everything they get into their warehouses, from what I'm told, I haven't seen this personally. So depending on where you get them, they may already have been frozen. I do this with all of my cigars now as a precaution against beetles.
 

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Is there any reason you cannot just put a whole box into some large bags and freeze them, then rest them still in the box? My freezer keeps a constant 0 F. I have never had any beetles, but wonder if this might be a good preventive measure for the future? My coolerdor rarely gets above 65 F and RH is always 65%.
 
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No you do not have to worry about essential oils, yes that's why you double bag, it offers protection.

There are vendors in Europe that freeze everything they get into their warehouses, from what I'm told, I haven't seen this personally. So depending on where you get them, they may already have been frozen. I do this with all of my cigars now as a precaution against beetles.
Nice, thanks Tubaman.
 
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Prometheus said:
Ok, so there seems to be WIDE spread debate, opinions, emotions, philosophies as to storage of cigars. It seems temp is almost more important than what RH (within 63-70 RH). I've seen a good range of numbers. Seems optimal at 65-70 RH and around 65-70 degrees.

My question is this... what has been your experience?

Is there a preferred RH and temp for you depending on whether you are aging and whether you are storing for consumption? What have you noticed at the different levels?

I cannot share any experience with you because I'm relatively new to all this, but all the specialists I have talked to are telling me that for aging (cabinet), the temperature and RH doesnt need to (or "shoulnt", depending on the sources) be as high as for smoking (humidor). The numbers that always come back in conversations are 65°F and 65 RH for aging and 70 RH for smoking (temperature not being that important in the humi as long as it isnt over 75°F).
 

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I actually read a thread on another board where someone was testing out storing his young cigars at 70% and he has experienced an increase in flavor without any splitting or burn problems.
 
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thebigo said:
I don't know if this is a huge problem but the RH, as I have previously shared, in FL goes crazy from high to low. I have been noticing that two of my cigars have cracks in the wrappers. I'm guessing b/c they dried out to quickly from outside in since I left the lid open seeing as how my RH inside the humidor was too high and today was a low humidity level. So two wrappers cracked, one near the cap and the other just below the band. Let me know what anyone thinks.

does the higher humidity help them age better? Also, when you keep cigars in your humidor do you take them out of the plastic and tubes? Hope that's not too low of a question.

Higher humidity ages the cigars FASTER but not as gracefully. If you are aging your cigars, you are trying to get them to develop the complex aromas and tastes that they do not currently exibit- why would you want to artificially push this process by increasing the humidity close to 70 percent? I keep my cigars at 64-65 and age them at this humidity as well.
 
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That was my understanding CVM.
How much difference would aging cigars at 70-72 degrees make from aging them at 65 degrees? How much faster are we talking here?
 
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Right now my humidor is sitting in a built in cabinet in the dining room. I have thermometer/hygrometer in the box. It records the temp and humidity in the box, but I am not sure how accurate it is. We keep the temperature in the house about 85 degrees during the day when no one is here, but the therometer in the humidor says that the temp in the humidore hovers around 72 to 76 degrees.

Any suggestions on how to keep my humidore at the correct temp? All of the drawers in that area are full of wine, and the wine celler will not be done for another 5 months.

Is the floor in the closet my best bet?
 
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caudio51 said:
And airflow around the cigars speeds it up too I believe
Yes, increased airflow and temp speeds up the aging process. Most believe that's a bad thing. I don't believe anyone can say how much faster but I would say quite a bit. There is a reason cabinets age better than dressed boxes and dressed boxes better than single out of the box sticks. I personally have no experience with long term aging. I am merely spitting out the wisdom of men who are passionate about aging.
 

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Right now my humidor is sitting in a built in cabinet in the dining room. I have thermometer/hygrometer in the box. It records the temp and humidity in the box, but I am not sure how accurate it is. We keep the temperature in the house about 85 degrees during the day when no one is here, but the therometer in the humidor says that the temp in the humidore hovers around 72 to 76 degrees.

Any suggestions on how to keep my humidore at the correct temp? All of the drawers in that area are full of wine, and the wine celler will not be done for another 5 months.

Is the floor in the closet my best bet?
Yes, get them in the coolest place in your house. That temp is pretty high.
 

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tubaman said:
Yes, get them in the coolest place in your house. That temp is pretty high.
Or depending on the size of your humidor put it in a large ice chest for the hot months. This will reduce the fluctuation in temps and the temp can be lowered quickly with a very small ice pak each day if necessary. Cheap solution till you cellar is done.
 
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