Binder is one thing but paying 50 for wrapper I'd expect it to be fully fermented. As much as I see people complain about LO I've never had any problems with their leaf. Only with shipping time
Yeah, for me I was more frustrated that they would ship such shitty leaf. If it were only the smell I could deal with that. But the smell and about half of it unusable frustrated me. At 22 bucks it's not worth the return shipping to send it back even though I wanted to. Don has some good filler but binder and most wrapper I'll get elsewhere. Wrapper is a mixed bag. I did get some Honduran wrapper from them that's pretty nice. Other wrapper, not so much.