While I don't trust Obama one inch if he is presented with legislation doing just that, there is no evidence to support him advocating any such thing. He is actually on the record stating that the 2nd is an individual right. Focus your angst on the Democrats that might be picking up seats in Congress. That is more likely to be where you have to worry.
Barack Obama's 10 Point Plan to "Change" the 2nd Ammendment
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Gummi Bear
Righteously Indignant
He may not have drafted that list, but in a few minutes of searching, I found news articles supporting most of those points (and arguing that he doesn't, draw your own conclusion)
He goes back and forth so much, it's hard to tell where he really stands. Like Bill back in the 90's, it's his wife that we should be worried about.
He goes back and forth so much, it's hard to tell where he really stands. Like Bill back in the 90's, it's his wife that we should be worried about.
PetersCreek
Brother Borealis
His public claims in this area often contradict his philisophical history and his voting record. He can be difficult to nail down on what he really thinks...especially since he began his bid for the Presidency. Sometimes he says in the same breath that it's an individual right but local bans are okay. Sometimes, he seems to think the 2nd Amendment protects an individual right to bear sporting goods. He doesn't respond to very many position questionnaires but here's an extract of one that he did fill out...
1998 IL State Legislative National Political Awareness Test Jul 2, 1998
Gun Issues
Indicate which principles you support (if any) concerning gun issues.
X a) Ban the sale or transfer of all forms of semi-automatic weapons. [emphasis mine]
X b) Increase state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
X c) Maintain state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
X d) Ease state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms.
X e) Repeal state restrictions on the purchase and possession of firearms by law-abiding citizens.
X f) Favor allowing citizens to carry concealed firearms.
X g) Require manufacturers to provide child-safety locks with firearms.
X h) Other
Evidently, this candidate who would quite happily take away my primary CCW, given the opportunity.
Thanks, Clint, you beat me to it. The list of 10 items doesn't even have any purported text telling what it is or the source. And no, the NRA is not a credible source, at least not to me.
Trust me, I'm not trying to say the guy is pro-gun or that I think he can be trusted on this matter, just that the original list as posted is overly broad and put forth with no real backing (cites to credible sources).
No shit, hey? More "present" votes than Yays or Nays while in the Senate? I've wondered if that was a strategy so as not to have to defend any particular position.
Coolhand
Resident River Rat
http://www.reason.com/news/show/125180.html
...In last year's ruling, which the U.S. Supreme Court will soon review, the D.C. Circuit overturned a Washington, D.C., gun law that bans possession of handguns in the home and requires that rifles and shotguns be kept "unloaded and disassembled or bound by a trigger lock." The law thereby effectively bars city residents from using firearms for self-defense in their own homes.
Obama evidently considers that de facto prohibition a "common-sense regulation," since he recently cited Washington's law as an example of constitutionally permissible gun control. "The notion that somehow local jurisdictions can't initiate gun safety laws to deal with gangbangers and random shootings on the street isn't borne out by our Constitution," he said.
The D.C. gun law, passed in 1975, isn't really about gangbangers, which it has not exactly disarmed, or random shootings on the street, which it has not noticeably curbed. In effect if not intent, it is about disarming law-abiding residents who might want to protect themselves from gangbangers and other violent criminals.
It's not surprising that Obama sees nothing unconstitutional about this situation, since he does not acknowledge that the Second Amendment has anything to do with self-defense. "As a former constitutional law professor, Barack Obama understands and believes in the constitutional right of Americans to bear arms," his website claims. "He will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns for the purposes of hunting and target shooting" (emphasis added).
This is the only substantive discussion of the Second Amendment on Obama's website. It's part of a document that lists "Protecting Gun Rights" as a subcategory of "Supporting the Rights and Traditions of Sportsmen," which is like listing "Protecting Freedom of Speech" as a subcategory of "Supporting the Rights and Traditions of Auctioneers."
The guy rates a solid "F" from the National Rifle Association and the Gun Owners of America. Clinton rated far better, and Clinton was responsible for the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban.
... Obama supported it, by the way:
"I believe we need to renew--not roll back--this common sense gun law.
If you're familiar with the 1994 AWB, you don't call it "common sense."
I agree that your local Democrat congressman is a problem -- but Obama's in it to disarm the American people as deeply as any of them.
Well, like I said, there's no love lost between Obama and I and I certainly don't trust him, but thanks for the info folks. Guess I've been a little too easy on him with this stuff, mainly because I'd already written him off.