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tubaman

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Kevin, I'm not sure if you're aware of this, so allow me point it out just in case:

Discrimination isn't illegal unless it's against a protected group (smokers are not; neither are large people)
I am aware of that. It doesn't mean I have to sit back and take it. If someone is going to discriminate against me because of my size, I'm sure as hell going to fight back.
 

indyrob

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Discrimination isn't illegal unless it's against a protected group (smokers are not; neither are large people)
Smoking is a choice, obesity isn't.

I could see that protecting the air quality against a known hazard like second hand smoke, but what's the point of disguising a "Fat Tax" because of space restraints? Greedy 6 figured people are figuring out ways to keep their jobs by coming up with creative ways to make up for the downturn in travel. The only way to really argue against it is to not solicit airlines that choose to enforce it.
 

Electric Sheep

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I am aware of that. It doesn't mean I have to sit back and take it. If someone is going to discriminate against me because of my size, I'm sure as hell going to fight back.
As well you should! I was just pointing out that there's nothing legally wrong with what they're choosing to do; it's their right to do so.

You can of course choose to do the same thing as I do--refuse to fly Southwest. (Well, at least on your own dime; I will fly SWA if it's being paid for by my employeer).
 
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Electric Sheep

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Smoking is a choice, obesity isn't.
Agreed.

...but what's the point of disguising a "Fat Tax" because of space restraints?
The point is that they can discriminate all they want against any unprotected group. I'm not saying it's the RIGHT thing to do...just that it's their right to do so.

The only way to really argue against it is to not solicit airlines that choose to enforce it.
I agree 100%--in my case (I'm not obese, but I have my reasons for not flying with them) I go out of my way not to fly with them, including paying more to fly with other airlines, and also driving twice as far to go to another airport instead.
 

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Why can't SWA just make planes with bigger seats? They should be changing to meet their customers needs not the customers being inconvenienced.
 

Moro

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Why can't SWA just make planes with bigger seats? They should be changing to meet their customers needs not the customers being inconvenienced.
Because then they, either loose space, or need a bigger plane, resulting in a loss. Companies are looking for profit.
 

cvm4

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Why can't SWA just make planes with bigger seats? They should be changing to meet their customers needs not the customers being inconvenienced.
It would eventually result in less profit per flight, hence their margins would get squeezed even more. Lets face it, the airlines aren't as profitable as they once were. They'll do anything to turn a profit these days.
 

bballbaby

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I'll have to admit, if i were to fly and had a "customer of size" seated next to me and they were "spilling over onto me" i'd be pissed. I'd bitch and moan, under my breath, and i'd tell the story to all my friends about how aweful it was.

But...

After about 2 days of remembering it and telling everyone, i'd casually forget about it. It wouldn't have ruined my week and it certainly wouldn't have dramatically altered the grand scheme of my life. And if that plane ride were so uncomfortable to the point that i wanted to make extra special certain that i never have even the remotest possiblity of being seated next to a person of size, i'd fly first class.

Seriously now, who hasn't stood in line next to someone who reeks of garlic, or sat beside someone at a public venue that smells like spilled beer and stale cigarettes? It happens to everyone, but we've all forgotten about it in a relatively short amount of time when looking at the big picture of our lives.


It's not a big deal, no pun intended.

Now i realize that content of my little rant wasn't the point of this thread, but it's my .02
 

Gummi Bear

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It would eventually result in less profit per flight, hence their margins would get squeezed even more. Lets face it, the airlines aren't as profitable as they once were. They'll do anything to turn a profit these days.

Their slimmer profits are due in large part to piss poor organization. I have no sympathy for their inability to manage their expenses more wisely.

I have plenty more to say about this, but I won't.
 
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my meager $ 0.02 is it is a free country. They are doing nothing that is illegal. Just providing for the comfort of their other passengers. I happen to like SWA at this point. And knowing that they are going to keep me more comfortable, I will be more likely to fly them. Now for "larger" flyers if they don't like it boycott SWA. That is why this country is great. I don't have to use the one airline run by the government. I can fly any G*&Dang airline i want. I have to follow that airlines rules but other than that I am free to choose.
 

cvm4

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Their slimmer profits are due in large part to piss poor organization. I have no sympathy for their inability to manage their expenses more wisely.

I have plenty more to say about this, but I won't.
Woot woot for hedging like SWA did.
 
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