Double capped cigars.

[gibbleguts]

I earlier today read a review on a double capped cigars and laughed out loud about it being smoked backwards. I mentioned it to a few friends and they didn't know the answer either. That made me feel a bit like a dick so I figured I would share my thoughts on how to know what end to smoke. The cigar itself tells you. When they roll a cigar there is always wrapper overlapping on each twist. The overlapping end needs to go to your mouth or the wrapper will unravel as soon as you burn past the other cap. If you go the other way and it unravels it is not a fault with rolling but the with the smoker.

 

[Craig Mac]

I was the only dumbass that didn't know Aaron, now I am an educated dumbass, thank you.

 

[Craig Mac]

Also, to clarify this is about cigars that are capped on both ends, not a cigar with a "double cap" on one end.

 

[kockroach]

Yeah, I definitely agree from looking at the pics in the review that it was smoked backwards.

Just looking at the shape of the cigar, I would have chosen to smoke the end opposite of what was smoked in the review. The wrapper confirmed that would have been the proper head.

 

[gibbleguts]

One of the reasons I know as it was a trick for getting extra cigars out of Cuba. Had a buddy ask for extra long cigars like 11" so they could later be cut in half and smoked separately. Roller told us no for those reasons then patched 2 cigars together for us instead.

 

[Craig Mac]

edit: I am getting a lesson from Aaron via PM, so I am out of the discussion due to not quite understanding :thumbsup:

 

[kockroach]

I think that helps clarify what gibbelguts means?

I know what Aaron is talking about. I said that based on first look of just the shape of the cigar in question, that I would not have cut the end that they did. The overlap of the wrapper, which you can also see in the close-up pics, confirmed that the end I would have chosen would not have led to the wrapper unraveling.

 

[kockroach]

HAHAHA! Wait a minute! I was told THIS is what you guys are talking about?! http://www.halfwheel.com/?p=25905

C'mon now... that's not REALLY a cigar to smoke...... that's ART with tobacco!

C'mon now....read the review. They say they felt it was a cigar that should be reviewed because it was rolled to be smoked. So, it is valid to point out the incorrect choice on the end the smoke.

 

[Craig Mac]

Ok, after a great, friendly explaination from Aaron, I think I got it. The overlap always is rolled in the direction of the head. I honestly can say I never knew or noticed that due to the fact I have always(for the most part) smoked cigars that had a clear cap/foot or a band on it and it wasn't something I had to think about.

Thanks Aaron for splainin' that, I just went from dumbass to dipshit :smokingbo


The more important part is not to never put the lit end in your mouth, that one I have understood for a while now!

 

[kockroach]

The more important part is not to never put the lit end in your mouth, that one I have understood for a while now!

Best advice I can think of! LMAO

 

[BrooksW]

C'mon now....read the review. They say they felt it was a cigar that should be reviewed because it was rolled to be smoked. So, it is valid to point out the incorrect choice on the end the smoke.

Sure, but if it was the incorrect choice on the end the smoke, then why was the band on the cigar pointed the wrong way?

Also, see here:

http://www.vitolas.net/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=1

~brooks

 

[gibbleguts]

Sure, but if it was the incorrect choice on the end the smoke, then why was the band on the cigar pointed the wrong way?

Also, see here:

http://www.vitolas.net/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=1

~brooks

It all depends on the roller. Which way they decided to put the wrapper on. There are very few cigars out there with caps on both ends as such there aren't any hard and fast rules as to which end to light. The roller just as easily could have started from the opposite end on some of the cigars. In the end tho there is only one direction to smoke a cigar and not have the wrapper come off. Even with that there are exceptions such as dry cured cigars and some show pieces that may have the entire wrapper glues on.

 

[kockroach]

Sure, but if it was the incorrect choice on the end the smoke, then why was the band on the cigar pointed the wrong way?

Also, see here:

http://www.vitolas.net/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=1

~brooks

In the case of the My Father bats....maybe the band was placed that way because of the display, as shown in the first pic in your review. Hard to tell by the size of the image, but would be interesting to see a larger res image to see the wrapper on the other cigars.

 

[gibbleguts]

I here that but also believe no matter on caps there is always a head and a foot and they are determined by how the wrapper is applied. The mechanics of it just aren't intended to work the other way. Being a novelty I and by how bad the smoking experience was I am guessing that even while rolling there was very little thought put into smoking. With that knowing that you wrapper will want to fall off if smoked the direction it is I would smoke the other direction.

 

[kockroach]

What end would you smoke if the bat had no band on it? I don't think the band has anything to do with which end is the head.

 

[gibbleguts]

Fair point.

It's lose-lose for the reviewer, though, I think. Had he smoked it the other way based on the overlap of vueltas... he'd be pounced on because he smoked it against the label placement and the opposite of other similar novelty smokes (like the pipe he also reviewed)... and everyone would just be saying he should have ignored the vueltas because it's a novelty. I don't think he can win here!

That's why I say... art... not meant for consumption...... so whichever way you go, it was gonna taste like arse no matter what... and someone was gonna think you were wrong.

Or if My Father is saying that all their cigars are intended to be smoked with the band ask them for a new one as that one was obviously rolled wrong. In many ways I do agree with the rollers that if it is sold as a cigar it should be smoked tho. If it is art then leave it and appreciate it as such. I personally am not a huge fan of rolled tobacco art. I have seen sculptures made from tobacco that were very cool but if it is rolled like a cigar then if it stays in my humi's at some point I will smoke it. If I won't smoke it it has to go away. I bought the CAO sopranos set but gifted it away once I realized I wouldn't smoke it.

 

[AlohaStyle]

Funny thread... I wouldn't know what end to clip either!?! LOL

Which begs the question... which end of this cigar to you cut and smoke from? This is the BOTL cigar Pepin made for us in Nicaragua in 2010 where Jere and I (among others of course) attended...

 

[javajunkie]

pry the top off with a church key and drink it. it's a nicaraguan chocolate stout, right?

 

[kockroach]

Funny thread... I wouldn't know what end to clip either!?! LOL

Which begs the question... which end of this cigar to you cut and smoke from? This is the BOTL cigar Pepin made for us in Nicaragua in 2010 where Jere and I (among others of course) attended...

That one wasn't made to be smoked. And it was supposed to go to a certain BOTL...but I don't believe it ever got to him.

 

[gibbleguts]

Funny thread... I wouldn't know what end to clip either!?! LOL

Which begs the question... which end of this cigar to you cut and smoke from? This is the BOTL cigar Pepin made for us in Nicaragua in 2010 where Jere and I (among others of course) attended...

Is the bottom capped? I can't tell from the picture. If not then should be easy if so figure out which way the wrapper goes and smoke from that end. That said as much as I don't keep cigars I won't smoke that being a gift and rolled by Pepin for you I would find some way of sealing that up so u could display it year round without worrying about it. The Conde Villa Nueva in Havana has a rolling competition every year and have things such as a sofa, UFO and many other wierd ones. They are not smoked but displayed unroll the beatles war them too much. While the Pepin ones are nice but not crazy enough I would buy not to smoke.