[Experiment] Infused cigars stored with traditional cigars
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SCIENCE!
icehog3
Outlaw Hockey Biker
You blinded me with it.
Glassman
Glass Gars Guns Garden
Your story is annoying, terrible and full of holes. You got a humidor from someone else and have created a whole story about why its now destroyed from one cigar. You dont know if there were a bunch of acids in there out of cellophane for a year, you have no idea how the humidor or the cigars were cared for because it was owned by someone who quit smoking and people that dont smoke dont take care of their cigars that they are not going to smoke. Also if you look into my experiment I use tupadors so there is no wood to absorb any scent anyway. Wood being a natural substance can absorb a scent over time im sure but a cigar inside of cellophane is not wood. I bet if the drawers of you humidor were lined with cellophane it wouldnt have absorbed any scent. Not to mention cedar wood which most humidors are made of a has a naturally strong scent in the first place but unless you store a cigar physically touching the cedar it wont absorb any of the scent, which is why they wrap cedar around some cigars and then place them in cellophane because if they wrapped the cedar around the cellophane it wouldnt have the same effect.Hahahahaha! Holy F dude! You really think it's permeable by water vapor, but not odors? Really!?!
You think I'm lying?
3 Months of sitting with baking soda in it, 3 different days open in the sun and wind during that time, and still if you touch the drawers you get acid smell on your hands.
And that's from one tiny acid blue being in there a few years......
Nacho Daddy has it right a few posts back.
Glassman
Glass Gars Guns Garden
Lol its so funny how the people for storing infused with traditional cigars have actual experience doing so and science to back up their arguments not to mention my documented experiment with two exact humidors at the same humidity with the same cigars. The people against storing them together have animated gifs, emojis, silly analogies, and one humidor owned by someone else given to someone for free. Its like trying to convince cavemen that the world is round.
I think part of the issue may be that as scientific as you may have intended your experiment, it is running into the fundamental flaw that your perception is being used to determine the outcome. Peoples palates and sensitivities to odor differ greatly. Not to be silly about this, but I could set up a very thorough and methodical series of tests that determined the cigars in my possession taste better when stored at 45% RH. It would probably be received poorly no matter how thorough I was, since many people here have experience with under humidified cigars that tell them the exact opposite. All I would likely convince anyone of is that my palate sucked.
I also wonder, since even unflavored cigars have a strong aroma and taste, how much fidelity you are getting when trying to detect transfer. We each only have our own palate to work with after all, but you might maximize your chances to detect transfer if you altered your experiment a little. Instead of storing a flavored cigar with unflavored and trying to detect contamination on the other cigars, what if you stored a flavored cigar with something relatively flavorless and odorless like a rice cake, or something similar. However sensitive your palate may or may not be... I would think that you would have a better chance of detecting transfer, if there is any. It may be that there is enough to detect on a rice cake, but not enough to matter to you, as it is masked by the taste of an unflavored cigar. Others may be able to taste it on the cigar though, so it would matter to them. All I have to do is read a cigar review by Katman to realize that some people have way more sensitive taste buds than I do.
Just my thoughts. I wish you well in your experiments... it may be that you find you are unable to discern any personal downside to storing them together and will have eased your storage requirements. If so, then "smoke what you like, and like what you smoke" is the motto that comes to mind.
I also wonder, since even unflavored cigars have a strong aroma and taste, how much fidelity you are getting when trying to detect transfer. We each only have our own palate to work with after all, but you might maximize your chances to detect transfer if you altered your experiment a little. Instead of storing a flavored cigar with unflavored and trying to detect contamination on the other cigars, what if you stored a flavored cigar with something relatively flavorless and odorless like a rice cake, or something similar. However sensitive your palate may or may not be... I would think that you would have a better chance of detecting transfer, if there is any. It may be that there is enough to detect on a rice cake, but not enough to matter to you, as it is masked by the taste of an unflavored cigar. Others may be able to taste it on the cigar though, so it would matter to them. All I have to do is read a cigar review by Katman to realize that some people have way more sensitive taste buds than I do.
Just my thoughts. I wish you well in your experiments... it may be that you find you are unable to discern any personal downside to storing them together and will have eased your storage requirements. If so, then "smoke what you like, and like what you smoke" is the motto that comes to mind.
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Thanks for your contribution to the thread. Imagine a world without GIFs, a world where you had to type in full sentences to form statements with a meaning rather than post animated pictures and act like a douche because you disagree with someone.
Glassman
Glass Gars Guns Garden
First of all, we have trolls, Tom is not one. He's just hilarious.
Secondly, it's hard for me to find words at this point, that are nice, reasonable, and appropriate for public. Go back and read the last few things you wrote to me as if someone were saying it to you.
It's been made clear that nothing will convince you no matter what we point out. So there's not much point in bludgeoning this carcass further.
Yeah you guys are freaking hilarious! I went out of my way here to type up and perform an experiment and share my results and you guys just pretend to be complete know it alls when no one else has done a single experiment of their own to prove me wrong besides talking about some friends humidor. I really thought this was going to be a great forum to share experiences on and discuss cigars like gentleman but clearly I signed up for the wrong forum. I wish this forum had the function some others do that allow you to simply ignore people so that you can have a nice forum experience without reading inane and annoying replies from trolls. I think I'll be in search of another forum to be a member of good day gentlemen.
Glassman
Glass Gars Guns Garden
I'm sorry man, but you're not going to find a nicer, more accommodating group of guys than here. Anywhere else and this would have gone far worse. Sometimes you just have to relax, lighten up, and laugh.
And be willing to consider other factors and hear what people are saying.
Hoshneer
Drew Estate NotRex
Honestly for the most part as long as the cello is on I have never had any issues with them stinking up my cigars. I keep very few infused cigars in my humidor but I definitely don't separate my Nub cafe which I do enjoy occasionally. I definitely wouldn't pull the cello off in the humidor though but I'm not as picky as others. I think it's just preference though but it's a cool experiment and brings up a lot of opinions like the old kitty litter debate. lol
Glassman
Glass Gars Guns Garden
In that case you might be the perfect tester Hosh. Let me send you a couple of these to see what you think.