That's exactly right. If the person knows its a habano they probably smoke em. It's not like there is habano police out there looking to make swat like take downs.DWavs said:
Habanos in Public
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OK, I'm Sorry..... I just look at them Real Dumb and say a Cigar Stupid!...
But I will tell them a Brand if asked, and ONLY a Few have asked if it's Habano.. I figure out of all the worl troubles MY Little Smoking Stick should be the least of there worries..
But I will tell them a Brand if asked, and ONLY a Few have asked if it's Habano.. I figure out of all the worl troubles MY Little Smoking Stick should be the least of there worries..
If someone asks I just tell them. I don't share how many more I have at home though.:grin:
Now if they are wearing a badge or are wearing black suits with dark sunglasses and there are black helicopters flying around outside I might tell them it's a White Owl and slip out the back.:thumbsup:
Now if they are wearing a badge or are wearing black suits with dark sunglasses and there are black helicopters flying around outside I might tell them it's a White Owl and slip out the back.:thumbsup:
When I'm enjoying a cigar out in "public", I'm usually with a bunch of other cigar smokers ... so we all generally know what's what. The questions are usually ... How old? Where did you buy 'em? and Got any more?
But most of the time I just smoke out on the back deck with a good drink and something to read.
But most of the time I just smoke out on the back deck with a good drink and something to read.
Well, in most situations I would consider it rude for a stranger to walk up to me and ask what I'm smoking.
One situation that would be permissable would be in a cigar crowd and someone obviously genuine about cigars asks, well then they get an honest answer and a conversation will probably take place.
There aren't any cigar police cruising the bars looking for people smoking Cuban cigars, at least not that I've seen, LOL. I carry my cigars with me on planes and everywhere else, bands on.
The present law on possesion is strictly a political move and cannot be enforced, not realistically. Even if some agent got a hair to do so, no one could prove if the cigar was brought in legally before the new law or not.
Barry
One situation that would be permissable would be in a cigar crowd and someone obviously genuine about cigars asks, well then they get an honest answer and a conversation will probably take place.
There aren't any cigar police cruising the bars looking for people smoking Cuban cigars, at least not that I've seen, LOL. I carry my cigars with me on planes and everywhere else, bands on.
The present law on possesion is strictly a political move and cannot be enforced, not realistically. Even if some agent got a hair to do so, no one could prove if the cigar was brought in legally before the new law or not.
Barry
Well, while I do agree with the political part, I'm sure the folks who have been arrested and/or fined for having cuban cigars in their possession would disagree with you on the rest.scarecrow said:
In some cases it's simple to tell whether a habano cigar is "legal" or not. Brands like Cohiba, QdO, SCLdH, SLR and Trinidad did not exist pre-embargo ... and there were no EL's back then either. In other cases, like when you return from a trip to Spain and your luggage contains 8 boxes of cigars, it's blatantly obvious.
This is very true, but smuggling past customs and smoking a Cuban in your local shop or cigar bar is a little different. I have yet to hear of a customs or homeland security agent hanging out in cigar shops waiting to bust someone for smoking a Cuban cigar. That's not to say that it's not possible. Now a cigar shop owner selling Cubans may and has drawn the attention of the officials before.tedski said:
Barry
If you had traveled to Cuba legally, and obtained the cigars before either the embargo was inforced, or before the $0 requirement was enforced, and you papers to prove it, then it is not illegal.Kingston said:
If you obtained them legally, then gave one to your friend, then HE is in possession of it illegally.
But yes, in all cases right now, obtaining them is not legal in any way by a US citizen. If you have duel citizenship and you travel outside of the US then you can obtain them legally, but cannot bring them back into the US legally.
And the law concerning 'outside the US', I believe, was part of the original embargo signed by JFK. But it's stupid because the laws of the US don't apply outside of the US borders, and unless this offense is extriditable, which of course it is not, it's a paper tiger. It is brought up every four years to swing the Cuban vote in South Florida. Plain and simple.
When Clinton was in office there was a big stink made about him buying a Cuban cigar at Heathrow airport.
You're right about those that obtained the cigars before the recent tightening of regulations, however it would be a guilty until proven innocent scenario.fuente said:
You'd have to prove you got them legally.
As for the dual citizenship business, I think you'd still be in trouble. As far as the US is concerned you're her citizen, subject to regulation.
That you happen to have a Canadian citizenship as well, is of no concern to the govt. Enforcement is obviously pretty difficult, but it can be done (never underestimate the power of a govt to screw over its citizens)
There was a recent stink about Tom DeLay having a HdM in Israel, but he did that before they put in the "can't consume abroad rule"
Agreed. The burden of proof is on you to provide the documentation.Kingston said:
The 'can't consume abroad' rule has always been in effect and was part of the original embargo, just never brought up pubically. And the dual citizenship issue I guess would come down to who had the better lawyer...
Bottom line is that it doesn't matter anyway. The whole thing is a joke.
This Time article seems to imply that the regulation was not in effect at the time he had the cigar:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1054968,00.html
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1054968,00.html