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Braumeister? How do you like it?
It has it's ups and downs. I would have never bought one but the brewery has 3 so I've been using the small system. The only negative I can say is the limits on the malt pipe. You either have to use some extract or run a double mash if a beer has a big grain bill. Runs step mashes at the push of a button though which is really sweet.
Overall it's more coin than I'd spend but I think over the long haul you get your money's worth. The footprint is also really small which is a big plus.
 

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It's hot as balls out today but we're getting it done. I didn't realize I was out of flaked barley so I had to I had to make a last minute sub for oats. Disappointing because I think flaked barley have better flavor and mouthfeel but the ball is rolling on mash #1. All in all came to 25# of grain and ended up going with this...

66% Maris Otter
10% Flaked oats
10% Black roast barley
10% Chocolate
2% Crystal 80
2% Special B
 

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Drinking my sour wit right now and Im really digging it. Sweet orange and peach esters lead the aroma followed by coriander and a bit of musky Belgian yeast character. No clove. The tartness compliments so well off the orange its almost too hard to pick up. It basically tastes like a refreshing sour orange. I really like it as is but seeing as how this was an experiment I think Im going to add some more acid to the keg o_O
 
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On Friday I brewed a Chocolate Wheat 1 Gal batch as an experiment in my first try at recipe building. With a little help fromBH as well. The grain bill was:
1.25 lb German 2 row
1 lb Wheat
1.5 oz of Chocolate malt
1 oz of C80
Hops: SAAZ, .5 oz
US-05
Ok, so I brewed and bottled and cracked one open on saturday at our brew club meeting and got some feedback. Well it was thin and watery; which I think I had too much water on kettle and didnt boil enough off. And some feedback said it had a cherry taste. Which I think may have been the 3/4 teaspoom of baking cocoa I decided to throw in at flame out. Iam going to up the whaet just a bit and not do the baking cocoa and maybe a bit of cocoa nibs at flame out of in fermentation.
 

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Ok, so I brewed and bottled and cracked one open on saturday at our brew club meeting and got some feedback. Well it was thin and watery; which I think I had too much water on kettle and didnt boil enough off. And some feedback said it had a cherry taste. Which I think may have been the 3/4 teaspoom of baking cocoa I decided to throw in at flame out. Iam going to up the whaet just a bit and not do the baking cocoa and maybe a bit of cocoa nibs at flame out of in fermentation.
I won't lie Im too lazy to do the math right now but I'd try bumping the crystal to 5-10% of the grist and mash a little higher. Not sure what the percentage you have now but eyeballing it looks lower than 5%. This should help the body/mouthfeel. Another option is adding in some torrified wheat.
If you decide to go with cocoa nibs I'd either age the beer on them post fermentation or soak them in liquor to make a chocolate extract. Ive had great results with nibs using both methods.
 

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The % of Crystal I used was only about 4%, so I think I will bump up that to about 10%. and do a cocoa nib extract with vodka. thanks.
I had a second to put everything in my Beersmith and it looks like you've got 2.6% Crystal. Jumping right up to 10% might be too much as it will add more sweetness to the beer. If it were me I'd bump it up to 5% first and up the mash temp then on another batch move to 7.5% and eventually 10% if you like where things are headed.

Something like this looks like it'd get you in the ball park....

Mash at 155f
1# 2 Row(43.24%)
1# Wheat(43.24%)
2oz Crystal 80(5.41%)
1.5oz Pale Chocolate(4.05%) - you could go with regular chocolate malt here but because the rest of the grist is so light the pale might work better since its smoother
1.5oz Chocolate Wheat(4.05%)

1/2oz Saaz @ 60min

OG - 1.059
FG - 1.016
IBU - 26.2
ABV - 5.6%
 
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I had a second to put everything in my Beersmith and it looks like you've got 2.6% Crystal. Jumping right up to 10% might be too much as it will add more sweetness to the beer. If it were me I'd bump it up to 5% first and up the mash temp then on another batch move to 7.5% and eventually 10% if you like where things are headed.

Something like this looks like it'd get you in the ball park....

Mash at 155f
1# 2 Row(43.24%)
1# Wheat(43.24%)
2oz Crystal 80(5.41%)
1.5oz Pale Chocolate(4.05%) - you could go with regular chocolate malt here but because the rest of the grist is so light the pale might work better since its smoother
1.5oz Chocolate Wheat(4.05%)

1/2oz Saaz @ 60min

OG - 1.059
FG - 1.016
IBU - 26.2
ABV - 5.6%
Thanks, I was off. Appreciate it. I am just going to try 5% then. And I am not sure if my local shop as any pale chocolate so i may just go 3 oz of Chocolate wheat. Again, thanks for checking that out, jmping up to 10% might have been a bit much.
 

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Thanks, I was off. Appreciate it. I am just going to try 5% then. And I am not sure if my local shop as any pale chocolate so i may just go 3 oz of Chocolate wheat. Again, thanks for checking that out, jmping up to 10% might have been a bit much.
No problem! Theres a likely chance 10% is fine but I know when I tweak my recipes I like to make smaller adjustments when it comes to specialty malts.
Regular chocolate is fine it just depends how much roast your after. If you want a sharper more pronounced roast than regular chocolate will be better but you won't be able to use as much before the roast will just drowned everything out. Pale chocolate won't be as roasty but you'll be able to use more of it while keeping good balance. Thats a little something Wayne Wambles of Cigar City says he likes to do.
FWIW if you can't get any pale chocolate you can try Weyerman Carafa if they have it. Its basically dehusked chocolate malt so fairly similar to chocolate wheat just barley.
 

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Well the taste tests are in. Chocolate witibier is officially a bad idea lol. It sounds amazing, well to me it did, but when it comes down to it I don't think its meant to be. Now a sour wit on the other hand is a big winner. 1oz lactic acid per gallon to the keg, very tasty and very refreshing.

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Well the taste tests are in. Chocolate witibier is officially a bad idea lol. It sounds amazing, well to me it did, but when it comes down to it I don't think its meant to be. Now a sour wit on the other hand is a big winner. 1oz lactic acid per gallon to the keg, very tasty and very refreshing.

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Did you use a hefe yeast or a neutral yeast? Although a chocolate covered banana beer does sound tasty... I will take your word on it though, lol. Did you just use the lactic acid instead of a sour mash or adding lacto in the fermentor? I am wanting to brew a sour mashed gose but I think it's getting too cool for that now.
 

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Did you use a hefe yeast or a neutral yeast? Although a chocolate covered banana beer does sound tasty... I will take your word on it though, lol. Did you just use the lactic acid instead of a sour mash or adding lacto in the fermentor? I am wanting to brew a sour mashed gose but I think it's getting too cool for that now.
I used WLP400, pitched cool and let it hang in the 60s for the first 2 days then let it ramp up to 75 on its own. Ester profile came out perfect, lots of tart peach notes. No bugs, sour mash, or sour worting just 88% lactic acid from AHS @ 1oz per gal added right to the keg. The tartness isn't as complex as going the traditional route but I think its character is just right in this beer. Definitely a method worth playing around with if you want to keep your system clean.

The backstory on the chocolate wit.... We have a dessert shop down here that sells chocolate covered orange peel slices. After trying one I thought it would be amazing if I could make anything even close to that so it eventually led me to try the chocolate wit idea. Just glad I can say I finally got that out of my system I was dying to know if it would be any good.
 

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Playing with some new malts while working on an English brown recipe and brewed the first batch yesterday. Color is spot on nut brown and the sample smelled pretty good I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out. Heres what I threw together....


Batch Size - 5.25
OG - 1.050
FG - 1.014
IBU - 27
SRM - 17.6


Grain Bill - step mash, 15min @ 135f, 60min @ 152f, 15min @ 158f

7.5# Maris Otter
8oz Red Wheat
8oz Crystal 80
8oz Special Roast
5oz Pale Chocolate
4oz Coffee Malt
4oz Aromatic

Boil - 60min

FWH 1.5 oz EK Goldings
Whirlfloc @ 10min

Fermentation - Wyeast Yorkshire Ale, 2days @ 65f, 14 days @ 70f
 

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So my RIS attempt finished up and is now in the keg with 12oz flaked coconut and 2oz cocoa nibs. The Yorkshire couldn't quite take the ABV as high as I wanted before conking out but did manage to get up to 7.5% with a 1.034 FG. I love this yeast for malt forward brews but big beers just isn't it's thing it doesn't really have the attenuation for it.
Figured I'd mess around with some additions on this one since I had to sub the flaked barley for oats and it isn't as strong as I aimed for. Going to brew it again and with a change of yeast, sub the regular chocolate for pale this time, and I might throw in 4oz coffee malt.
 
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I finally bottled the Raspberry Stout recipe I got from @BrewinHooligan . I took a sample and there may be a little too much raspberry. we'll see, sometimes a little magic can happen in that bottle. Also, I took one gal from the batch and added some cacoa nibs along with the raspberries for a choc raspberry stout. We'll see how that turns out.
And brewing an IPA this weekend. Just using the Dead Ringer IPA recipe from Northern Brewer, but using Cascade hops in place of Centennial. Need to do my yeast starter tonight!
 
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I finally bottled the Raspberry Stout recipe I got from @BrewinHooligan . I took a sample and there may be a little too much raspberry. we'll see, sometimes a little magic can happen in that bottle. Also, I took one gal from the batch and added some cacoa nibs along with the raspberries for a choc raspberry stout. We'll see how that turns out.
And brewing an IPA this weekend. Just using the Dead Ringer IPA recipe from Northern Brewer, but using Cascade hops in place of Centennial. Need to do my yeast starter tonight!
Damn that sounds tasty!!!!!!!!!
 

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Drinking my stout now and holy mounds bar!!! 12oz unsweetened flaked coconut + 2oz cocoa nibs did an amazing job, perfect balance. Almost tastes like a Last Snow clone except it's lighter on the coffee and heavier on the cocoa.
 
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