Identification help needed!

[Donk]

Hi brothers It's been a long time, but I need your help. I have been getting back into Habano cigars and I bought a couple of these to try and I can't find this one anywhere. Any help would be appreciated.

Donk.

darker to show the bands
brighter to show cigar color

 

[jmatkins]

Kelly it has been to long, I can not help you with the cigars but I hope you back for a while.

 

[vivalanation734]

Sorry buddy, those aren't real habanos... just some fakes.

 

[Donk]

yeah, this pisser is they have the taste profile and quality of a Cohiba, the Cohiba band is authentic, just have never seen the secondary band.

 

[njstone]

maybe a regular production Cohiba with a (fake) "Reserva" band to try to make more money?

 

[Donk]

well it was a good cigar, only costed me $20. Like I said had a great cuban taste profile. Guess no need to get that one again.

 

[Donk]

Kelly it has been to long, I can not help you with the cigars but I hope you back for a while.

Plan on hanging around for a while, if the forum has picked back up, got pretty slow there for a while. How the hell are you?

 

[Clint]

maybe a regular production Cohiba with a (fake) "Reserva" band to try to make more money?

Or a knock off, which generally have many of the profile/characteristics since they were made on the island...

 

[Gar]

In the picture I see the "C" in Cuba has a bit of the print go through the bottom curve of the c. I thought I read this was a dead giveaway of a fake Cohiba band. It leaves a little nub of the line going down. Is this a truly a tell or does the cursive font look correct?

 

[Donk]

Here Is what Gar is talking about,

cohiba on the right is a real cohiba robusto

So my next problem is, I have one other cigar bought from the same place. I have become friends with the cigar shop owners and chat quite a bit. Should I tell them they are selling fakes? If so I might be asked to leave and not return. Either they have no idea they are selling fakes of they do and don't care.

 

[AlohaStyle]

It is one of the worst fakes I have ever seen... I've never even seen that second band and the Cohiba band is obviously wrong, can tell by the "C".

I don't even know why it's a question whether or not to tell them. If I bought a fake cigar from my local B&M where I'm friends with the owner/manager, you're damn right I'm bringing it up. If they ask you to not come back, that should tell you if you really want to be "friends" with them and giving them your money. You should be able to tell if they knew they were selling fakes and lying about it, or seriously clueless. If you could see it in their faces that they were selling you fakes, I would tell them exactly what I thought and never walk foot in that place again.

Nothing against you bro, but it just floors me how there is thread after thread about people wondering if they should bring up fake cigars to their source. Seriously?

 

[Jfire]

Welcome back.
Extra cut thru on top and bottom of the C. Xtra black band on top of fake on reg band. Only reserva I know of and touched is a 03. But then again I don't buy boxes of 1200 dollar cigars. (at release)You were around for awhile, didn't you have the knowledge to not buy stateside brother?

 

[Donk]

Welcome back.
Extra cut thru on top and bottom of the C. Xtra black band on top of fake on reg band. Only reserva I know of and touched is a 03. But then again I don't buy boxes of 1200 dollar cigars. (at release)You were around for awhile, didn't you have the knowledge to not buy stateside brother?

Just glad I messed up on a couple and not a box full. I figured since the owners were not americian that they might have had a nice source from home. Never thought I'd have to go and detail inspect my friggin cigar. Well live and learn.

 

[Donk]

well one last bit, It tasted really good though, it might be a fake cohiba but it is Cuban. It had good taste good construction and great finish. It was still a good fake.

 

[icehog3]

They charged you $20 for something that isn't what it was purported to be...I would be seriously pissed.

 

[Knickerbocker]

yeah that cigar faker than the 3 dollar bill. highly doubt your shop is being duped and believes he is selling authentic habanos.

 

[mistaforty]

Here Is what Gar is talking about,

View attachment 28254 cohiba on the right is a real cohiba robusto

So my next problem is, I have one other cigar bought from the same place. I have become friends with the cigar shop owners and chat quite a bit. Should I tell them they are selling fakes? If so I might be asked to leave and not return. Either they have no idea they are selling fakes of they do and don't care.

For this question I always say bring it up? Of course. Accuse? No. THAT can ruin a relationship. Show them the evidence and not in front of a buncha people and all should be fine.

 

[AlohaStyle]

For this question I always say bring it up? Of course. Accuse? No. THAT can ruin a relationship. Show them the evidence and not in front of a buncha people and all should be fine.

I definitely understand what you are saying. But what are the chances these people are blindly selling crappy fakes? If an American business is going to do something illegal such as selling "cuban" cigars, don't you think they would do a little research and know what they are doing? I would guess they at least have a good idea they are fake and if true, them selling me a fake would ruin that relationship. F them... But like you said, no need to go in guns blazing, tread lightly at first to get their reaction and response then go forward accordingly. And just like Tom said, they sold me a $20 who the hell knows what, I would be pissed too.

 

[Reelman]

yeah, this pisser is they have the taste profile and quality of a Cohiba, the Cohiba band is authentic, just have never seen the secondary band.

Actually, it looks as though the band is fake as well. The line that extends downward from the cursive C on Cuba should not extend to the bottom of the band.

 

[Donk]

So to count, I have bought 2 fake cohiba and one fake trinidad. So I guess I am the dumbass of the week. But I still say they were some tasty fakes, especially the trinidad.