lets play real or fake?

[thejavaman]

IF the one on the left is not aged, and the right is presumed genuine (which I believe it is), the left is a phony. As others stated, the band is a giveaway. It's not like the factory has different types of bands lying around for the same cigar and they just grab whatever.

If the one on the left is aged (and was presented to the owner as such, or he's just sat on it for a while), maybe a different story. Who knows what exact band the factory may have used back then? For an apples-to-apples comparison you'd have to get a bona-fide stick that was made at the same time as the suspicious one and compare the bands.

You can always smoke it and find out!

(p.s. Mojo -- nice plume! Looks delish!)

The only way I see that even possibly being true is if you're talking about like a 1960's PSD4. And plume??? On a recent production cigar??? No way dude. That's the lighting or the way Johnny boy held his phone when taking the photo, cause it sure as hell ain't plume!

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[Scroni]

from the photo, it also only looks to have a double cap instead of a triple...

 

[Senor Perfecto]

And plume??? On a recent production cigar??? No way dude. That's the lighting or the way Johnny boy held his phone when taking the photo, cause it sure as hell ain't plume!

Do we know how old Johnny's stick is? There's definitely something on that cap. Could be dust I suppose... but I prefer to think a bit of plume.

 

[MoJo]

Thanks for the feedback everyone, very informative! Nice tip on the psd4 misprints Ryan, never knew that.


For those curious, my stick is from 2011, no idea how long it takes for plume/bloom to develop or if that even is plume or dust or the lighting of my shitty camera phone, as long as its not mold I'm happy

 

[thejavaman]

I've prolly seen actual plume form only once since I started smoking cigars (on cigars from the 90's at one of my B&M's). Plume can take DECADES to form (under absolutely perfect conditions) and even then, it only occurs sometimes. It's a very rare occurrence indeed.

 

[brandoncpm]

I think its mold trash them all

 

[Senor Perfecto]

I've prolly seen actual plume form only once since I started smoking cigars (on cigars from the 90's at one of my B&M's). Plume can take DECADES to form (under absolutely perfect conditions) and even then, it only occurs sometimes. It's a very rare occurrence indeed.

It *can* take decades, or not at all (most likely). Plume has been reported in sticks as "young" as 12 months, though I assume that's exceedingly rare.

Johnny's 2-3 year old stick looks like it's got light cap plume to me. There's definitely something on there, since the "clean" (and fake) cigar on the left is under the same light/angle and shows no evidence.

 

[Cigary43]

Easy....the band looks like crap so it didn't take long to know it's faux.

 

[thejavaman]

I've prolly seen actual plume form only once since I started smoking cigars (on cigars from the 90's at one of my B&M's). Plume can take DECADES to form (under absolutely perfect conditions) and even then, it only occurs sometimes. It's a very rare occurrence indeed.

It *can* take decades, or not at all (most likely). Plume has been reported in sticks as "young" as 12 months, though I assume that's exceedingly rare.

Johnny's 2-3 year old stick looks like it's got light cap plume to me. There's definitely something on there, since the "clean" (and fake) cigar on the left is under the same light/angle and shows no evidence.

I've never heard of any 12 month old cigar ever developing plume. Mold or mineral deposits? Sure, but definitely not plume. I'd love to see some examples of 12 month of cigars that have plume on them cause that seems highly improbable to me.

 

[AlohaStyle]

Would be very surprising to be plume on such a young cigar. Sometimes you can get a little dust from the box and/or an active humidifier etc.

 

[chimmay]

label is very inconsistent, gold band and font is rough, not embossed. id say fake

 

[AlohaStyle]

from the photo, it also only looks to have a double cap instead of a triple...

And also this... good eye. :thumbsup:

 

[Jfire]

What does John use for humidification? And if active humidity what type of water? I've seen plume on a dozen or more sticks personally. Maybe 2 dozen......... But I've smoked a few cigars from the 40s 50s 60s and up. I've also smoked a tat noella reserva with very slight plume and a SW maddie with plume as well. Not full blown plume. But just the start of it all over those two cigars. And they came out of their respected boxes. Other than that never on any other stick with less than 10 years on it that I can recall very easy.

 

[MoJo]

The stick was in my Wineador, stored as a single in a cedar drawer, which I use hcm beads and boveda packs for humidification. It's not plume, I think it was just some dust that the lighting showed when I took the pic.

 

[Hoshneer]

Yeah, I don't know what causes the dust. I get that on some of my sticks as well.

 

[gogicha]

The left is fake, I can see it by the fake ink on the label. Also the left one has a slight pinch on the top https://www.swisscubancigars.com/index.php/romeo-y-julieta.htmlhttp://