Overboard

[Tag9485]

Hello all,

I went a little overboard with a purchase recently and have a question. I made my purchase based on a recommendation more that experience. Ramone Allones Specially Selected, Trinidad Reyes and Partagas Shorts.

It was my understanding that they all smoke nicely even if a little young, is this correct? How long should I age them? I ask that because I smoked an H. Upmann that was aged too long recently. I've smoked others that were aged too little and too much and its not always pleasent. So to avoid wasting cigars I was hoping for help.

"It was my understanding that they all smoke nicely even if a little young, is this correct? " Incorrect........varies by box,year,storage,ETC.

" How long should I age them?" until they are ready to smoke........you will know by trying one occasionally.

"I ask that because I smoked an H. Upmann that was aged too long recently."Unlikely,and without an age statement,shows a total lack of understanding.Maybe if it was 50 years old it would be diminishing,but still it would be a rare experience.Aged too long?perhaps aged poorly,or not even real...........

I've smoked others that were aged too little and too much and its not always pleasent.How do you know this?

"So to avoid wasting cigars I was hoping for help"...How else can you learn,if you do not experience it for yourself?Is that a waste of cigars?How much do you value knowledge?
If you ask others for advise you will never experience learning,in fact you may be led in the wrong direction.Get a book and read,smoke some cigars,and grow........

Isn't this forum here to ask questions like this? I mean, if you can't ask questions about others experiences then why bother right?

 

[3/5King]

Hello all,

I went a little overboard with a purchase recently and have a question. I made my purchase based on a recommendation more that experience. Ramone Allones Specially Selected, Trinidad Reyes and Partagas Shorts.

It was my understanding that they all smoke nicely even if a little young, is this correct? How long should I age them? I ask that because I smoked an H. Upmann that was aged too long recently. I've smoked others that were aged too little and too much and its not always pleasent. So to avoid wasting cigars I was hoping for help.

"It was my understanding that they all smoke nicely even if a little young, is this correct? " Incorrect........varies by box,year,storage,ETC.

" How long should I age them?" until they are ready to smoke........you will know by trying one occasionally.

"I ask that because I smoked an H. Upmann that was aged too long recently."Unlikely,and without an age statement,shows a total lack of understanding.Maybe if it was 50 years old it would be diminishing,but still it would be a rare experience.Aged too long?perhaps aged poorly,or not even real...........

I've smoked others that were aged too little and too much and its not always pleasent.How do you know this?

"So to avoid wasting cigars I was hoping for help"...How else can you learn,if you do not experience it for yourself?Is that a waste of cigars?How much do you value knowledge?
If you ask others for advise you will never experience learning,in fact you may be led in the wrong direction.Get a book and read,smoke some cigars,and grow........

Isn't this forum here to ask questions like this? I mean, if you can't ask questions about others experiences then why bother right?

Completely agree, you ask question to gain knowledge and grow.....

 

[Ducttapegonewild]

Hello all,

I went a little overboard with a purchase recently and have a question. I made my purchase based on a recommendation more that experience. Ramone Allones Specially Selected, Trinidad Reyes and Partagas Shorts.

It was my understanding that they all smoke nicely even if a little young, is this correct? How long should I age them? I ask that because I smoked an H. Upmann that was aged too long recently. I've smoked others that were aged too little and too much and its not always pleasent. So to avoid wasting cigars I was hoping for help.

"It was my understanding that they all smoke nicely even if a little young, is this correct? " Incorrect........varies by box,year,storage,ETC.

" How long should I age them?" until they are ready to smoke........you will know by trying one occasionally.

"I ask that because I smoked an H. Upmann that was aged too long recently."Unlikely,and without an age statement,shows a total lack of understanding.Maybe if it was 50 years old it would be diminishing,but still it would be a rare experience.Aged too long?perhaps aged poorly,or not even real...........

I've smoked others that were aged too little and too much and its not always pleasent.How do you know this?

"So to avoid wasting cigars I was hoping for help"...How else can you learn,if you do not experience it for yourself?Is that a waste of cigars?How much do you value knowledge?
If you ask others for advise you will never experience learning,in fact you may be led in the wrong direction.Get a book and read,smoke some cigars,and grow........

Isn't this forum here to ask questions like this? I mean, if you can't ask questions about others experiences then why bother right?

Completely agree, you ask question to gain knowledge and grow.....

X3 on that opinion. There are several sources to gain information, but I personally like the warm touch (careful 3/5) of a trusted forum rather than a cold touch of a book.

 

[javajunkie]

FWIW, nacho has solid poins on all counts. aging is going to vary on marca, vitola, production code, and personal preference. while there has been a lot of current production coming out that has been beautiful ROTT, aging (almost) always helps CCs. and, at the end of the day, they're your cigars, it is your palate, and ultimately your call.

i read this as exactly what y'all were asking: a sharing of knowledge. he interjected with his experience, and also asked for more input on a couple points.

 

[Tag9485]

FWIW, nacho has solid poins on all counts. aging is going to vary on marca, vitola, production code, and personal preference. while there has been a lot of current production coming out that has been beautiful ROTT, aging (almost) always helps CCs. and, at the end of the day, they're your cigars, it is your palate, and ultimately your call.

i read this as exactly what y'all were asking: a sharing of knowledge. he interjected with his experience, and also asked for more input on a couple points.

I agree his points were valid, his execution is what bothers me. I'm not saying everybody has to be peace love and harmony, but there's got to be a way of getting your point across without coming off as pompous.

 

[Avvatar]

Books are simply a forum with only one member. I'd rather gain the experience of hundreds.

 

[Tag9485]

Books are simply a forum with only one member. I'd rather gain the experience of hundreds.

Man how bout that quote!? You read that in a book? Haha

 

[Ducttapegonewild]

Books are simply a forum with only one member. I'd rather gain the experience of hundreds.

Man how bout that quote!? You read that in a book? Haha

Nah, he got it off a forum somewhere...

 

[Avvatar]

This is the only forum I follow and none of you guys are smart enough to say anything that noteworthy.

 

[Donk]

When talking about habano cigars, aged to long it put into terms of decades not years. Most habano cigars don't reach their true peak untill 10-12 years of age. Onve you've reached 20 years they are beginning their downward decline. I've had one habano that was 30 years old, it was bland with little flavor and no real taste at all. But hey I smoked a 30 yr old cigar on my 30th birthday, kinda cool.

 

[Jp1979]

I smoked an early 80's dunhill recently and it was like smoking air.

 

[Nacho Daddy]

FWIW, nacho has solid poins on all counts. aging is going to vary on marca, vitola, production code, and personal preference. while there has been a lot of current production coming out that has been beautiful ROTT, aging (almost) always helps CCs. and, at the end of the day, they're your cigars, it is your palate, and ultimately your call.

i read this as exactly what y'all were asking: a sharing of knowledge. he interjected with his experience, and also asked for more input on a couple points.

Forgive me if I was brusque,trying to illuminate and educate a brother.I subscribe to several forums,and see so much incorrect information flying around,it really makes me sick.
When I add something to a thread ,it is an attempt to help others and maybe prevent someone from having a bad experience,or wasting money.

I have been enjoying cigars for over 40 years,have studied cigar production and cigar making for 15 years,I roll cigars ,and collect cigars as a hobby.

Just as the rest of the members here,I have my opinion,and now I have provided my bona fides for my statements.It is your decision to embrace or disregard them.........

 

[cgraunke]

Thanks Nacho.

 

[UtahRootBeer]

I have been enjoying cigars for over 40 years

so according to my math that means you were born with a cigar, probably a petite corona? Lol