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blisscigarco said:
Mostly flavor. But I feel there are a lot of problems with the retail browns. They are not up to the level of the pro stuff, which is all bought up by the pros because the consumers believe brownness tastes better even when it's just dye or other coloring processes. But basically I go for a Cuban profile and I get very close with CT Shade.
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Wow!! I thought the color was due to the fermentation process and flavor really being affected by leaf variety and how long or how little the leaf is fermented for. So the brown leaf I’m buying is just dyed dark??
 
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Wow!! I thought the color was due to the fermentation process and flavor really being affected by leaf variety and how long or how little the leaf is fermented for. So the brown leaf I’m buying is just dyed dark??
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Some. There are other ways to darken leaf. I've got docs going back to the mid 1800s on patented ways to do this.
 
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ramthepharoah said:
Wow!! I thought the color was due to the fermentation process and flavor really being affected by leaf variety and how long or how little the leaf is fermented for. So the brown leaf I’m buying is just dyed dark??
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I'm not Blake, but imma throw my $.02 out here which is worth $.02 or less. Major commercial outfits do serious fermenting of their brown leaf to get it where they want it. What is available to us is not fermented like that and therefore is inferior to what they have available. To really have a good leaf fermentation you need hundreds of pounds of leaf arranged in a pilon to get the best results. On our scale, just ain't gonna happen. Now, I have had good results with the brown leaf available to us, but my tastes are different than Blake's. He likes the Cuban profile which is milder and more refined and I like a much stronger smoke.
 
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blisscigarco said:
Damn it, I should have guessed, Soy Milk!

P.S. Those are some fine-looking cigars. Looking back at your mini perfectos of 3 years ago, I'd have to say these are even prettier.
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Thanks buddy, have to say practice, Videos, and more practice have finally guided my hands to roll better. Also, understanding leaf case in wrapping is hugely important

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ramthepharoah said:
I certainly don’t doubt it. I feel kind of cheated with dye though. DYE?! Now I’m questioning why my Connecticut Maduro smells syrupy...
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Most of the other ways don't do jack shit to give you bonus flavor/sweetness/richness, either. Speed-fermenting in hot rooms. Speed-fermenting in hotboxes with steam and ammonia. Applying oils and/or glycerin. Paint it with #3 and #5 or whatever; boil stems and make a black broth and spray the leaves with it.
 
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ramthepharoah said:
I certainly don’t doubt it. I feel kind of cheated with dye though. DYE?! Now I’m questioning why my Connecticut Maduro smells syrupy...
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I don't think the Maduro we get is dyed but it could be wrong. If it was or is dyed when you have it at case you're gonna get all kinds of crap all over your hands, etc. I haven't used much Maduro available to us though
 
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