Rh discrepency - above and under shelves

[herfdog]

My current setup : 100ct humidor with two large packs bovedas in the lid.

I started to monitor upper/lower sections, and it seems the lower one sits at near 5% lower than above the shelve. Theres cigars on the shelve, but still aeration.

Is this a common problem? Can it be due to introducing new cigars? Should I add humidification to the lower section? Leave the upper section more free?

Thanks for any thoughts.

 

[sofc]

humidity rises. It's common.

 

[SeaGarr]

humidity rises. It's common.

+1

That's why I smoke from the bottom, and rest up top LOL!

 

[sofc]

wait, you have two hygrometers in a 100ct humi?

 

[herfdog]

humidity rises. It's common.

Should I put the bovedas in the lower section then?

 

[herfdog]

wait, you have two hygrometers in a 100ct humi?

No Ive been moving it up and down several times yesterday, which trigerred the question. Its a good 5% lower underneat.

 

[sofc]

Should I put the bovedas in the lower section then?

Don't think it matters that much in that kind of space but try it.
I usually put my more stuff on the bottom than top.

 

[Zmilin]

My current setup : 100ct humidor with two large packs bovedas in the lid.

I started to monitor upper/lower sections, and it seems the lower one sits at near 5% lower than above the shelve. Theres cigars on the shelve, but still aeration.

Is this a common problem? Can it be due to introducing new cigars? Should I add humidification to the lower section? Leave the upper section more free?

Thanks for any thoughts.

Just get a wineador, add a fan for circulation and an ETC for temp control and let us know when it's ready so we can bomb the shit out of you.

On a serious note...how deep is this 100ct that you would get that much difference in such a small space? Post a pic.

 

[Zigarro]

humidity rises. It's common.

+2! ^^^^^

 

[Zigarro]

Should I put the bovedas in the lower section then?

"That's why I smoke from the bottom, and rest up top LOL!" (Seagarr)

No need; smoke from the bottom like SeaGarr said.

 

[sofc]

Ok, I will ask. How do you know what you're going to be in the mood for.

 

[Zigarro]

Ok, I will ask. How do you know what you're going to be in the mood for.

I suppose, until he moves into a larger storage solution, he'll have to base his mood on acquisition dates? (Smoke oldest 1st?)

 

[danmdevries]

There's an adage in homebrewing called RDWHAHB - relax, dont worry, have a home brew.

Same here. Unless you're noticing a difference, just enjoy em. I used to obsess over my humidors and constantly fiddling with em, trying to get the numbers where I wanted ended up being less than productive.

 

[herfdog]

There's an adage in homebrewing called RDWHAHB - relax, dont worry, have a home brew.

Same here. Unless you're noticing a difference, just enjoy em. I used to obsess over my humidors and constantly fiddling with em, trying to get the numbers where I wanted ended up being less than productive.

Its just that the 5% discrepency makes for a bit too dry in the bottom with cracking wrapper on some cigars, and a bit too humid in the top, eith some that just don't smoke good. Maybe I'll go back at using beads and kl spread evenly in the humidor, the rh was more even and everything smoked good.

 

[sofc]

honestly, if you have that kind of discrepancy in a small humidor, there's something very very wrong.

Also, %5 should not make it too dry on the bottom and too humid up top. Just not enough range for that to happen.

 

[OtismyMan]

Correct me if I'm wrong but...If you have a 100ct Humidor you should be using 4 large Boveda packs. One for every 25ct. of capacity (not just # of current cigars). At least that's how I understand it and could be the cause of your troubles?

 

[sofc]

Correct me if I'm wrong but...If you have a 100ct Humidor you should be using 4 large Boveda packs. One for every 25ct. of capacity (not just # of current cigars). At least that's how I understand it and could be the cause of your troubles?

That's probably what Boveda says but 2 is usually plenty. I know someone who keeps a cabinet humidor with a small amount of kitty litter and 1 or 2 small bovedas in each level and it's fine.

 

[StogieNinja]

It also might just be too much fidgeting with it in too short a period of time.

Put it on the bottom, close it, and don't open it again for 24hrs. Then repeat with it on the top and compare.


It could be that the humidor is Chinese made, has a razor thin bottom, and is just leaking out the bottom. Over at Puff, Ed (Waxing Moon) cut open a reasonably nice Quality Importers humidor and the only thing between the cigars and the unsealed accessory tray below was a really, really thin sheet of unfinished wood.

 

[danmdevries]

It also might just be too much fidgeting with it in too short a period of time.

Put it on the bottom, close it, and don't open it again for 24hrs. Then repeat with it on the top and compare.


It could be that the humidor is Chinese made, has a razor thin bottom, and is just leaking out the bottom. Over at Puff, Ed (Waxing Moon) cut open a reasonably nice Quality Importers humidor and the only thing between the cigars and the unsealed accessory tray below was a really, really thin sheet of unfinished wood.

They all have 1/8" press board bases

 

[herfdog]

Correct me if I'm wrong but...If you have a 100ct Humidor you should be using 4 large Boveda packs. One for every 25ct. of capacity (not just # of current cigars). At least that's how I understand it and could be the cause of your troubles?

That could make sense... the 2 packs became dry faster than I tought.
(I also had to reorganize my storage during that period, and added a lot of sticks...)

It also might just be too much fidgeting with it in too short a period of time.

Put it on the bottom, close it, and don't open it again for 24hrs. Then repeat with it on the top and compare.


It could be that the humidor is Chinese made, has a razor thin bottom, and is just leaking out the bottom. Over at Puff, Ed (Waxing Moon) cut open a reasonably nice Quality Importers humidor and the only thing between the cigars and the unsealed accessory tray below was a really, really thin sheet of unfinished wood.

Oh I am rather certain the original dryness came from reorganizing and adding sticks, with a good 20 new sticks in there last week just as it became dry.
I think the issue is to rehumidify the bottom if/when its dryer - when we open the humi for more than a minute or two. If the moisturization is in the lid and humidity raises, it would take longer than if its in the bottom. Am I making any sense?
I didn't have this discrepency with beads in the bottom - but it has the bad effect of having a larget footprint "taking" room where I now store cigars.

At this point my preferred method of humidification are the super coffins that I got from brother BigBill, with a shallow ammount of beads or KL. Those are the easiest to spread RH.