No need to defend your palate or smoking opinion on any respectable forum. If you enjoy them then smoke them and if you don't then smoke something else. I like Tats and I'm a Saints & Sinners member from year one and I find all of the pissing and moaning over this year's Petemas disgusting and ignorant. Frankly Pete didn't make any kind of misleading promises about what they were or weren't and the quality of the cigars he provided and what they cost was more than fair. The only reason anyone would have cause to protest that they were also available at NHC is if they planned to turn around and flip them on they grey market because they wanted to turn a profit and that kind of crap makes me sick. Strangely enough when Pete offered to buy them back from anyone who wasn't satisfied nobody took him up on that offer......I wonder why?