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To ligero, or not to ligero? That is the question

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Does anyone else find ligero a little underwhelming?

It's quite wonderful when mixed with other fillers, but honestly the more the ligero takes the forefront, the more boring the cigar becomes.

How do others feel about ligero? Do you wish there was more or less of it?

Is there something else you prefer?
 

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Ligero is great for strength. I finally smoked that Cain that is 100% ligero and it tasted like dirt. ligero is there for nicotine power, not flavor. So to rely on a bunch of ligero is to say I want a stick that will make many smokers nic sic
 
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Some cigars with ligero wrappers (J21, Gran Cojonu) have an interesting taste. But it's not the main course, just part of the blend. The all ligero kick really doesn't impress me either. And a lot of cigars with less, or none, seem to have a more complex flavor and aroma, even if they aren't as strong.

After a good cigar I don't think "man that was a good nic kick", it's flavor.
 

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I find marduro x 3 is far better than ligero x 2.

Now, what if we went ligero maduro filler, binder, and double wrapper.

mmmm....
 
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Some cigars with ligero wrappers (J21, Gran Cojonu) have an interesting taste. But it's not the main course, just part of the blend. The all ligero kick really doesn't impress me either. And a lot of cigars with less, or none, seem to have a more complex flavor and aroma, even if they aren't as strong.

After a good cigar I don't think "man that was a good nic kick", it's flavor.
I thought J21 was dark Conn broadleaf.

With that said I am not a big fan of All ligero. I will say that Lito Gomez has mastered how to use it.
 

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I think it just depends on the quality of the ligero, and how it's blended. I think the Tatuaje T110 is a great cigar, and it's 100% ligero. The Cain, not so much.
 

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Now I do like me some Ligero but what i really want is the Holy Grail of Cuban Tobacco....Pelo de Oro!! :cbig:
 
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Love it. Love the T110, cain F robusto, CAO LX2. Not all the time, but more often than not when I want to smoke I want to know I'm smoking something powerful.
 

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There's a reason cigars for countless years have been made of a blend of seco, viso and ligero.
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but Ligero has the (most) strength, Seco- the flavor, and Viso - burn characteristics..?

That said, I go through cycles of liking really strong sticks to prefering more 'medium' cigars. Variety is the spice of life, right?!
 

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Tat T110 and LFD Double Ligero's are some of my favorite smokes. Smoked and LX2 Lancero recently and enjoyed it. The Cain.... not so much. Can't wait for the Tatuaje Fausto!
 
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but Ligero has the (most) strength, Seco- the flavor, and Viso - burn characteristics..?

That said, I go through cycles of liking really strong sticks to prefering more 'medium' cigars. Variety is the spice of life, right?!
You're on the right track, but you're mixing terminology specific to one region with characteristics / definitions from another. It's a common error / misunderstanding, let me see if I can clear it up a bit...

On the tobacco plant, from the top down, in Cuba and the DR, the leaves are classified: Ligero, seco, volado.
In Nicaragua, Honduras and the rest of central America: Ligero, viso, seco.

Cuban volado, Nicaraguan seco - same thing - just two different names: they're both a large mild leaf, excellent burn properties.

Cuban seco, Nicaraguan viso - middle primings, stronger than the volado/seco but still a very good burn.

Ligero is the top primings and the most flavorful/strongest leaves on the plant.

Different varietals of tobacco grown in different regions have varying levels of strength, there are some Nicaraguan visos that are strong enough to equal, even surpass in strength, some ligeros from other regions.

Those are the standard classifications anyway. Some factories have some additional classifications that they use for further grading / sorting / blending purposes.
 
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I'm a big fan of the LFD double ligero, but have never tried the Cain line. It sounds like I'll be ringing a similar bell here, but I'd say that Ligero mostly provides strength to a blend.

By the way, I'm glad there's so much information coming out about the leaves and primings in this thread. I picked up some good info from reading, especially from Thunder.Gerbil. Keep 'em puffin!
 

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Love it. Love the T110, cain F robusto, CAO LX2. Not all the time, but more often than not when I want to smoke I want to know I'm smoking something powerful.
+1...I look for that super strong kick when I smoke NC's (which is only on occasion)..love the spice. Cain F Lancero is awesome. I like Nicaraguan Ligero.
 
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