I have a 1940's Kaywoodie Supergrain with stinger in tact that was gifted to me. It has always been a great smoker. I have since cleaned up one estate with stinger intact. I have only smoked it once with some PA so can't give an opinion, but I can say the stinger was a PITA to clean.I never had as much luck with pipes with stingers, tended to just gurgle more than those without